Fleetwood-Matt
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Hot Take: Harry's House is closer to Renaissance in terms of overall quality than Midnights is to SOS or Guts.
Agreed. Also Harry’s House is way better than Midnights
Hot Take: Harry's House is closer to Renaissance in terms of overall quality than Midnights is to SOS or Guts.
The only album out of the AOTY nominee that I own Is Lana Del Ray so that would be my choice but I never thought she really stood a chance. I always felt like Swift winning AOTY was fait accompli.
I was more upset last year when Harry Styles beat Beyonce.
Do we have more info on Killer Mike’s altercation other than it was a fight? Will’s slap was televised for all to see, which sounds worse, but actually made everyone think it was part of the show in the moment. After the dust settled I do agree he should’ve been removed from the audience at the very least.
Jay-Z’s speech was funny at times but uncomfortable at others (his “some of you don’t deserve to be here” line was a low blow)Unrelated, I really kind of hated how some artists used the acceptance speech to either trash the award/org they won it from out to just blatantly promote a new project. I get it but it felt cheap and insulting to the other nominees to have that happen multiple times.
Jay-Z’s speech was funny at times but uncomfortable at others (his “some of you don’t deserve to be here” line was a low blow)
Then Miley’s second speech she said that the award means nothing, then caught herself and turned around to walk the statement back a bit to the hard working people that operate in the shadows for her.
All in all, it was a weird fuckin’ Grammys.
I really thought that Styles album was reductive and boring though.Hot Take: Harry's House is closer to Renaissance in terms of overall quality than Midnights is to SOS or Guts.
I really thought that Styles album was reductive and boring though.
I really thought that Styles album was reductive and boring though.
Yeah, I am not defending Midnights. The difference between last year and this year for me was expectations, I expected Beyonce to win last year, her album was arguably the biggest album of the year and instead they gave it to Harry Styles.I felt similarly about Midnights to be honest.
You are assuming the Grammys is about music - it is not! It is about pop performers at best, and really about sales combined with an attempt at some DEI range.Yeah, I am not defending Midnights. The difference between last year and this year for me was expectations, I expected Beyonce to win last year, her album was arguably the biggest album of the year and instead they gave it to Harry Styles.
This year I expected Taylor Swift to win, her album was arguably the biggest album of the year. If SOS or GUTS or …Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd. “upset” and had won instead I wouldn’t have been disappointed (and if LDR won I woulda been genuinely happy) as I find those albums to be worthy of the recognition.
But it’s the Grammys the award show where Lionel Richie beats out Tina Turner, Bruce Springsteen, and Prince to win AOTY. They’ve always disappointed more often than got things right.
Nah. I know what the Grammys are about. It’s an industry wankfest just like all award shows.You are assuming the Grammys is about music - it is not! It is about pop performers at best, and really about sales combined with an attempt at some DEI range.
And that does mean all awards shows. Even ones that aren’t televised and unrelated to the entertainment industry. They don’t need to happen but humans crave activity.Nah. I know what the Grammys are about. It’s and industry wankfest just like all award shows.
Yeah, I am not defending Midnights. The difference between last year and this year for me was expectations, I expected Beyonce to win last year, her album was arguably the biggest album of the year and instead they gave it to Harry Styles.
This year I expected Taylor Swift to win, her album was arguably the biggest album of the year. If SOS or GUTS or …Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd. “upset” and had won instead I wouldn’t have been disappointed (and if LDR won I woulda been genuinely happy) as I find those albums to be worthy of the recognition.
But it’s the Grammys the award show where Lionel Richie beats out Tina Turner, Bruce Springsteen, and Prince to win AOTY. They’ve always disappointed more often than got things right.
@Fleetwood-Matt it would be kinda fun to put together a revisionist Grammy’s where we post a poll for each year’s Grammy AOTY Nominations and see who N&G thinks shoulda won the award each year.
Yeah, I bet given the community and hindsight being what it is we could probably end up with much better results.Wow I love that idea! I’d happily host that
Grammys are such a weird experience when you listen to all the good music that actually comes out in a year. Like it blows my mind that so much of the world truly believes the artists and albums nominated for Grammys are indicative of the best music that came out in the last year.
It’s just a show that pits industry plant versus industry plant, it’s not an open dialogue with the actual music world. The few Grammy nominated artists that actually deserve to be there seem to always get snubbed. As a result, I haven’t watched a Grammys since Macklemore beat out Kendrick Lamar.
I loved Jay-Z’s speech. “Some of y’all don’t deserve to be in the category” feels like my thoughts in a nutshell. Every year I look and say “Who’s nominated? Oh riiiiiiiiiiigght, yeah that’s hilarious but ok”. These categories are just not representative of the talent that’s out there making music with their whole heart and soul, just feels representative of who the big labels have sunk the most money into.
Anyway shouts out HOV for telling the truth!