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Lord Diaper Baby said:
I never watched much of MASH on TV. I didn't realize it was a movie first. It came on today at work.

I'm puzzled about what the film is trying to have me feel toward the protagonists (I guess it's an ensemble cast, but I'd say that Hawkeye, Trapper, and Duke are who the audience is meant to connect with).

I get that their carefree attitude is supposed to work in contrast to Maj Houlihan's and Burns' straight-laced character. But, honestly, they're dickish bullies.

I get the rebellious attitudes but it comes at the expense at those around them. The microphoned sex scene was whatever - I mean, definitely an invasion of privacy but came off more as boyish immaturity.

But the shower scene where they expose Maj Houlihan to an audience and completely humiliate her in such an intimate manner....is the audience still meant to root for them as the heroes of the story?
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I prefer Robert Altman’s MASH the movie to MASH the TV show. The movie has none of the sentimentality of the TV Show. It speaks more to the nihilistic philosophy these Doctors use to cope being forced to serve in a war that the characters don’t believe in. Sutherland’s Hawkeye and Gould’s Trapper John do what is required of them in the moment as in their Hippocratic oath requires but they don’t believe in what they are fighting for and find much of the military both pointless and hypocritical. They act like kids at a frat house mostly as way to stave off boredom (I obviously agree a lot of the goofing off and pranks done today would be inappropriate by today standards; but the movie premiered in 1970 and set during 1951 so by those standards they were probably risqué but likely not out of bounds). The movie is much lighter in tone than the TV show and I think many fans of the show come into the movie expecting something a bit more profound. I mean, the climax of the movie is a Slapstick Football game between units. The movie is more character driven than the TV Show so I think a persons enjoyment is based on how much you enjoy hanging out with Hawkeye and Trapper John. Alan Alda’s Hawkeye is the definitive Hawkeye IMO but Donald Sutherland is still more than adequate in the role and Elliott Gould’s Trapper John is my favorite version.

Ultimately, the movie lacks heart where the show had it in spades. So if you are a big fan of the TV show I think you’re bound to be disappointed by the movie.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I prefer Robert Altman’s MASH the movie to MASH the TV show. The movie has none of the sentimentality of the TV Show. It speaks more to the nihilistic philosophy these Doctors use to cope being forced to serve in a war that the characters don’t believe in. Sutherland’s Hawkeye and Gould’s Trapper John do what is required of them in the moment as in their Hippocratic oath requires but they don’t believe in what they are fighting for and find much of the military both pointless and hypocritical. They act like kids at a frat house mostly as way to stave off boredom (I obviously agree a lot of the goofing off and pranks done today would be inappropriate by today standards; but the movie premiered in 1970 and set during 1951 so by those standards they were probably risqué but likely not out of bounds). The movie is much lighter in tone than the TV show and I think many fans of the show come into the movie expecting something a bit more profound. I mean, the climax of the movie is a Slapstick Football game between units. The movie is more character driven than the TV Show so I think a persons enjoyment is based on how much you enjoy hanging out with Hawkeye and Trapper John. Alan Alda’s Hawkeye is the definitive Hawkeye IMO but Donald Sutherland is still more than adequate in the role and Elliott Gould’s Trapper John is my favorite version.

Ultimately, the movie lacks heart where the show had it in spades. So if you are a big fan of the TV show I think you’re bound to be disappointed by the movie.
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Yea no real attachment to the TV show.

so I did like their attitude toward being doctors in that scenario. For example where Elliot Gould’s character socked Duvall when he treated that other fella as if he had caused a loss of life and taking care of that baby.

I guess my biggest complaint would have been a way to show more of that character complexity to, not make some of their pranks excusable, but at least better demo the complexities of character

Again I watched it at work so some of it may have escaped me in that viewing.

good insight/write up!
 
Lord Diaper Baby said:
Yea no real attachment to the TV show.

so I did like their attitude toward being doctors in that scenario. For example where Elliot Gould’s character socked Duvall when he treated that other fella as if he had caused a loss of life and taking care of that baby.

I guess my biggest complaint would have been a way to show more of that character complexity to, not make some of their pranks excusable, but at least better demo the complexities of character

Again I watched it at work so some of it may have escaped me in that viewing.

good insight/write up!
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LOL, it’s a movie I have defended a bit. A lot of my friends that grew up on MASH reruns really dislike the movie. I have seen my fair share of the TV show but there were a few things that always kept me from loving it (I hated laugh track and the dramedy tone shifts of the TV show). I first saw the movie during an Altman kick in college and enjoyed it much more.
 
Watched His House on Netflix a few weeks ago. Great freaking storytelling for a directorial debut. Horror, but stylish and creepy.
 
Melt Face Molly Drop said:
Sound of Metal was an engaging watch. Riz Amed has been great in previous projects but I think this one will open him up to a lot of new roles to showcase his range.
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Great movie. I think I appreciated the middle part more than the beginning/end.
I kind of felt he spent the second act learning to accept change and his new circumstances, so the third act of him getting the procedure felt like a weird shift. Obviously the point was he had to realize firsthand he couldn't just go back to his old life, and the closing shot was a great way to close.
 
Bull Shannon said:
Great movie. I think I appreciated the middle part more than the beginning/end.
I kind of felt he spent the second act learning to accept change and his new circumstances, so the third act of him getting the procedure felt like a weird shift. Obviously the point was he had to realize firsthand he couldn't just go back to his old life, and the closing shot was a great way to close.
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I'd agree. Though it was a 2 hour film I felt it was a very quick 2 hours because of how much the 3 acts contrasted eachother. But that contrast helped to show just how devastating something like that can be for a person, especially when they seemingly do have the resources but struggle to accept the reality of it all. I felt like I was going through it all with him which speaks volumes to both the direction and the performances.
 
ayayrawn said:
Tenet blows.
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Finally got around to seeing this. I think it's concept of time travel is really unique and super interesting but way too convoluted. I understand this was made for the theaters but can't imagine I would have been satisfied paying 15-20 bucks to watch it once and coming out without an understanding of what was going on. I might be stupid but I had to watch it twice and both times, i abused the rewind button like crazy before being able to piece it together. With that said and after watching it, I'd want to see this in imax for sure although not now - and probably by the time I feel safe doing so, It'll be too late.
 
 
Ericj32 said:
Are these all movies that you like? Or is there some kind of hidden message here?
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JohnnyCashFan said:
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Training Day (2001) ⭐ 7.7 | Crime, Drama, Thriller

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I was curious about that too. Also, depending on your reasoning, and if you haven’t done so already; you may wanna look into the Letterboxd app. I use it a little bit but I think it’s a great idea for keeping stock of what you’ve been watching.

Here’s my profile.
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SpeedBoatChamp’s profile

SpeedBoatChamp uses Letterboxd to share film reviews and lists. 674 films watched. Favorites: Rushmore (1998), Raising Arizona (1987), Dazed and Confused (1993), Pulp Fiction (1994).
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You can add me as a friendo on there if you’d like.
 
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@JohnnyCashFan I hope we didn't offend ya. I don’t think anyone meant anything negative inquiring about your post. @Ericj32 is a good guy. There was absolutely nothing wrong with your posts it was just a bit atypical to how this thread is commonly used. I apologize and hope you still feel comfortable hanging out here.
 
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
@JohnnyCashFan I hope we didn't offend ya. I don’t think anyone meant anything negative inquiring about your post. @Ericj32 is a good guy. There was absolutely nothing wrong with your posts it was just a bit atypical to how this thread is commonly used. I apologize and hope you still feel comfortable hanging out here.
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Yeah I was just curious about the meaning of those posts since there wasn’t any message other than the links. I apologize if I came across as being a jerk or like, policing what gets posted here. I feel bad when people post stuff and no one replies or reacts on their stuff and in this situation I wasn’t sure what the context was (and figured that others probably didn’t either) so was trying to figure out how to engage/respond. I think it’s fine for anyone to post whatever they want in this thread related to movies - I know i do.

On a side note, I feel like I saw a response from @JohnnyCashFan in here after we asked about the links today) which I thought was playfully funny and like faux-outraged and I gave it a heart emoji because I thought it was a joke making light of the confusion here, but maybe I misinterpreted that, too, since it’s been deleted now.

@Tenderlovingkiller should we delete these posts about it? I don’t know WHAT to believe anymore...haha. Are we just making it worse by talking about it?

I still kind of just want to know what those posts were about - favorite movies of all time (was it a countdown)? Or log of movies as they’re watched? Or movies on the “want to watch” list? Or were they looking to see what other people thought about them?
 
Ericj32 said:
Yeah I was just curious about the meaning of those posts since there wasn’t any message other than the links. I apologize if I came across as being a jerk or like, policing what gets posted here. I feel bad when people post stuff and no one replies or reacts on their stuff and in this situation I wasn’t sure what the context was (and figured that others probably didn’t either) so was trying to figure out how to engage/respond. I think it’s fine for anyone to post whatever they want in this thread related to movies - I know i do.

On a side note, I feel like I saw a response from @JohnnyCashFan in here after we asked about the links today) which I thought was playfully funny and like faux-outraged and I gave it a heart emoji because I thought it was a joke making light of the confusion here, but maybe I misinterpreted that, too, since it’s been deleted now.

@Tenderlovingkiller should we delete these posts about it? I don’t know WHAT to believe anymore...haha. Are we just making it worse by talking about it?

I still kind of just want to know what those posts were about - favorite movies of all time (was it a countdown)? Or log of movies as they’re watched? Or movies on the “want to watch” list? Or were they looking to see what other people thought about them?
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Not sure. I knew there wasn’t any ill intent but the internet is a weird place and ripe for misinterpretation. Probably best to just move on for now. Hopefully, they’ll feel comfortable to join us back here to talk about movies and shit.
 
CrazyDiamond84 said:
Here's a link to my Letterbxed profile in case anyone wants to follow. I'm only logging in what I'm watching in my chronological journey through cinema. I'm still back in 1942, with Casablanca being my next movie. One I've never taken the time to watch.

My profile on Letterboxd CrazyDiamond84’s profile
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Nice! I followed ya but You’re gonna need an Avatar.
 
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