dhodo
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Haha, even better. I don't think I would have been able to find a hippogriff playing a piano.
Vinyl Me Please Classics
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Selaws
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You've hit the nail on the head there. Her nervousness meant that any small comment (and let's face it, the Blakey confrontation was by no means small) affected her greatly.I've read about Jutta Hipp's life a lot as I'm a fan. Was she really shunned by her peers? Who shunned her? Other than Art Blakey being rude to her on a bandstand one night and her playing style being compared to Horace Silver, did anything else happen? I'm genuinely asking. Blakey was out of line that night no doubt, but the Silver comparison is true. She shifted her entire playing style because of Silver. He was an artistic influence. Everything I've read on her life shows that she was well liked and regarded.
Jutta's main issues seemed to be severe stage fright, alcoholism, clinical depression, undiagnosed PTSD from WWII (she went through a lot), and the fact that she did not want to be a bandleader.
Katja von Schuttenbach is a German jazz historian. Her insights on Jutta's life and what happened to her are a great read.
Jutta Hipp: The Inside Story
Last week I posted on German pianist Jutta Hipp, who recorded in the 1950s before disappearing from the jazz scene. I also mentioned that Katja von Schuttenbach—a jazz historian and journalist [pictured above]—had researched and written about Hipp. I sent...www.jazzwax.com
I've read quite a bit on Hipp and from memory I believe it's Leonard Feather's Jazz Years which had a decent chunk of info and stories regarding her. Essentially her being German in post-war America meant certain prejudices were put her way. This was the main 'issue' Blakey had with her and I have certainly read that others shared his view, that she was 'taking their jobs'. On top of that she was a woman in a male-dominated profession (she earned the title of Europes "First Lady of Jazz"). Beryl Booker was playing around the same time and said she had to force and barge her way into being able to play (something which Hipp's shyness wouldn't have allowed for).
Supposedly the straw that broke the camels back was when she declined Feather's offer to play his compositions. I believe he was married at the time but constantly pushed sexual advances towards Hipp. Both rejections from Hipp made their relationship sour and she parted ways with him. I just found a great quote online from her where she talks about disliking playing at places where more established musicians play, stating - “I don’t go to those places [where the well-known musicians play]. I go to those little unknown places, where the musicians love to play.".
Thank god for the likes of Horace Silver though. She met him after idolising him for years and he was really nice towards her.
TCell
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Here's another clue from Storf:
"Since no one has even sniffed close to the Classics, here's a bonus there: 1974"
Also,
"You have the meaning of the first clue wrong...it has to do something with the album cover."
"Since no one has even sniffed close to the Classics, here's a bonus there: 1974"
Also,
"You have the meaning of the first clue wrong...it has to do something with the album cover."
oldschoolkirby
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What was the first clue again?
TCell
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Mr Moore
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Something by the Duke, he died '74.
dhodo
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Just came to say Duke Ellington - The Pianist.
BUT, then we weren't wrong about what the 1 meant and calling Ellington semi-known would be insane.
Mr Moore
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Ah yes, good point.
Am I correct in thinking it’s a piano solo album?
Not outside the realms of possibility though...
dhodo
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The Pianist? No, a trio, but maybe that's what he meant we were wrong about? We had several guesses with full bands though, maybe they didn't on reddit. There is only one person pictured on the cover and only one artist credited on the front cover. Not positive about last released before he died.
dhodo
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Lol, if that ends up being correct, Storf calling Ellington semi-known is definitely going down as a classic storfism.
dhodo
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I agree he fits that better, but he has put out many albums after 1974.
jamieanderson1968
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Plus Jarrett is still alive, so not him
dhodo
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Really hard to pin down last Duke album released. I think the Pianist was released in June or later, as the notes say it was remixed June 1974. He died in May. Duke's Big 4 could be earlier but I can't find any month info. Don't see how it could fit the 1 clue though.
dhodo
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I think technically someone who retired after the album would fit the clue, but that wouldn't be Jarrett if the album was released in 1974.
jamieanderson1968
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I thought the clue was "last album released while the musician was alive"?
dhodo
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During the artist's life. Don't you think technically that could apply to someone who won't release new music? I agree it is probably someone who died, though.
jamieanderson1968
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Gotcha. If it was someone retired that would be the best guess sleight of hand ever 