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Speaking of willful ignorance, there is something I noticed with the influencers I follow from rural America. Many of them are supporting the black lives matter movement. They participated in black out day posting the black tile, have the black lives matter card link in their bio and have the black lives matter logo in their display picture.
Yet confederate flags can be found in the background of their posts, especially a lot of the most recent ones. Whether it's handing in their garage, on the side of a barn or flying on the back of a friends F-350 Diesel Truck.
Their general response to people calling them out for it is unfollow me if you don't like it. A flag isn't racist, people are. I'm not racist.
I'm just trying to comprehend their mindset and make sense of it.
Yet confederate flags can be found in the background of their posts, especially a lot of the most recent ones. Whether it's handing in their garage, on the side of a barn or flying on the back of a friends F-350 Diesel Truck.
Their general response to people calling them out for it is unfollow me if you don't like it. A flag isn't racist, people are. I'm not racist.
I'm just trying to comprehend their mindset and make sense of it.
"The Black Lives Matter Foundation" Raised Millions. It's Not Affiliated With The Black Lives Matter Movement.
Employees of Apple, Google, and Microsoft have raised millions of dollars for the Black Lives Matter Foundation thinking it's the international racial justice movement seeking to end police brutality. That couldn’t be further from the truth.
www.buzzfeednews.com
Ethos99
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There are people over here who believe that 5G causes COVID-19
We need a facepalm reaction emoji.
#featurerequests
Philadelphia court employee fired after video shows him ripping down Black Lives Matter signs - CNN Video
An employee of Philadelphia Family Court was fired after video surfaced showing him ripping signs off a fence and responding to someone who says "Black lives matter" with "not to me, they don't," a court spokesperson said.
www.cnn.com
AnthonyI
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Welcome to America where the problem with COVID is how it inconveniences us, not how it may effect and or kill us.
I am absolutely here for these racists being outed.Philadelphia court employee fired after video shows him ripping down Black Lives Matter signs - CNN Video
An employee of Philadelphia Family Court was fired after video surfaced showing him ripping signs off a fence and responding to someone who says "Black lives matter" with "not to me, they don't," a court spokesperson said.
What I find shocking and disheartening is that their racism is so deeply engraved into them, that this is behavior they think is ok to be filmed. Like, what on earth is happening with them when cameras aren't watching???? Ugh. FUCK RACISTS!
dhodo
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A lot of people in the south purely associate it as a symbol of southern pride and (at least giving them the benefit of the doubt) that's really as deep as they ever think about it. Just like they claim to hate yankees as a blanket statement.
There is a willful ignorance involved that whenever they are confronted about it, they refuse to accept that it means anything else and a refusal to care what it represents to others. I'm not sure why that is. I'm glad that it seems at least some people (and organizations) are reconsidering that in these times.
Edit: just want to clarify this is from personal experience growing up here with people I have interacted with. I am sure it does not remotely apply to everyone.
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Keep Prince's name out ya mouth, Karen.
debianlinux
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I grew up with one on my wall (I didn't put it there). I was taught it symbolized state sovereignty over Federal control. Sometime later I realized it meant entirely different things to other people and I considered the fact that displaying a flag is about communicating a message the viewer will understand not one you expect the viewer to read your mind.
dhodo
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Well put. I wish more people tried to be conscious of that.
There are reports that there are already a couple hundred people lined up and camped out to get their spot at Trumps rally on Saturday.
Local officials are concerned about the spread of COVID-19.
Local officials are concerned about the spread of COVID-19.
DownIsTheNewUp
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There are people over here who believe that 5G causes COVID-19
yeah. I thought that’s where this was going. I personally think 5g very well may be unsafe.Time will tell.
But people who think 5G causes Covid are a special kind of crazy
DownIsTheNewUp
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A lot of those same people think the Civil War was more about taxes than slavery.
dhodo
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Or States Rights!
TrainFan73
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Southern Pride is a fucked up thing. My wife and I had a knock down argument this evening because she thinks the Op Ed calling for Dixie Chicks to change their name is insane. She hit me with Dixie is a place. I hit her with that's not so far removed from the woman in Richmond saying people are trying to erase white history- which to @DownIsTheNewUp 's point above is an easy leap to make because I was taught in history class that the civil war was mostly economic. I loved the confederate flag when I was a kid, not because I was racist but because it was on the top of an orange charger. Systematic racism is actually what we were actively raised in and people don't necessarily understand how symbols of what they view as their culture are harmful to others.
Speaking of history class
A lot of these people also refer to the Civil War as the "War Between the States" or the "War of Norther/Yankee Aggression".
Speaking of history class memories @Lee Newman, I have one as well. Back in probably like 2002 or 2003 when I was in US History class I had a teacher who's first teaching job was in the deep south. She was probably in her 30's so I expect this incident happened in the 90's. But in the school distract she was teaching in, all the text books used War of Norther Aggression, never once mentioning the Civil War. And she was expected to teach it that way. She mentioned to her class that in other parts of the country call this war the Civil War.
This resulted in outrage from parents, she got called into a meeting with the super intendant. She got into serious trouble. She nearly lost her job, was placed on probation and informed that she had to stick to and teach whats in the curriculum and text books and couldn't add her own spins. If she did so again she would loose her job.
A lot of these people also refer to the Civil War as the "War Between the States" or the "War of Norther/Yankee Aggression".
Speaking of history class memories @Lee Newman, I have one as well. Back in probably like 2002 or 2003 when I was in US History class I had a teacher who's first teaching job was in the deep south. She was probably in her 30's so I expect this incident happened in the 90's. But in the school distract she was teaching in, all the text books used War of Norther Aggression, never once mentioning the Civil War. And she was expected to teach it that way. She mentioned to her class that in other parts of the country call this war the Civil War.
This resulted in outrage from parents, she got called into a meeting with the super intendant. She got into serious trouble. She nearly lost her job, was placed on probation and informed that she had to stick to and teach whats in the curriculum and text books and couldn't add her own spins. If she did so again she would loose her job.
DownIsTheNewUp
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Enlighten me please. What is the origin of the phrase Dixie?