I believe it updates after seller fees are collected on the last sale for that release. It usually seems to be about a month or so behind the current date.
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TrainFan73
Frothy
Two questions:
1. Is this okay:
Dojo Cuts - Rome / Falling In Live Again ?
2. Should the deluxe version of Black Pumas be a different listing than the regular.? I ask because there are now two master releases with various variants, but like SOTT - the deluxe and super deluxe were added to the original master.
1. Is this okay:
Dojo Cuts - Rome / Falling In Live Again ?
2. Should the deluxe version of Black Pumas be a different listing than the regular.? I ask because there are now two master releases with various variants, but like SOTT - the deluxe and super deluxe were added to the original master.
1. Looks good. Do you have a release date or year? You probably can find that on their band website.
Just make sure the first image is first! (sorry bad joke, unless you're following the recent obi-strip drama)
2. The regular Black Pumas have 10 tracks, 1LP, and have mostly the ATO0503 cat#. The Deluxe has 21 tracks, 2LP, and ATO0534 cat#. So they should be separate, in my opinion. But I could be wrong about that.
Cheers.
dbarila
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I would think Black Pumas should all be under one master. OKNOTOK is listed under the Ok Computer master listing. I would think this is a similar situation with different packaging and extra tracks.
TrainFan73
Frothy
Release date is Oct 23, so I was gonna wait until then to add the date instead of getting the weird warnings.
TrainFan73
Frothy
This was my thought. I don’t have another deluxe edition that has a separate master.
dirty hands
Well-Known Member
This just saved me a huge headache. I deleted my policies thinking it would be easy to start over and do it the correct way and I got so lost.
dbarila
Well-Known Member
Go figure. On a Holiday an item I sent Media Mail is out for delivery and an item I sent Priority Mail looks like it's being held at the post office until tomorrow.
Selaws
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Hi guys, hoping you could help me with something.
I updated the shipping policies the other day as per their new rules and even though I added a 'UK' option I have just had an order for a record to go to the Netherlands and it somehow auto-accepted the same postage rate for the UK. Is there not a way to just have postage in the UK and then set a separate option for the rest of Europe?
To put it in context, postage in the UK is £3.80 (which is what I listed it as) whereas sending it to the Netherlands will be £13.55
I updated the shipping policies the other day as per their new rules and even though I added a 'UK' option I have just had an order for a record to go to the Netherlands and it somehow auto-accepted the same postage rate for the UK. Is there not a way to just have postage in the UK and then set a separate option for the rest of Europe?
To put it in context, postage in the UK is £3.80 (which is what I listed it as) whereas sending it to the Netherlands will be £13.55
Yes I have different for here, rest of Europe and worldwide.
You have to make sure that fo the uk that you pick it under Europe but that every country, other than the uk is unticked.
Then you do a second policy and click Europe. This will pick all the countries. Go through it and make sure to specifically untick the uk.
Selaws
Well-Known Member
Cheers buddy! I didn't see the extra drop down per country. What a nightmare all this is though, I cant see what was wrong with the old system if messaging the seller for a rate. At least that way its up to date with current prices and you can give accurate information.
Ended up taking a £10 hit on a parcel because I hadn't set up the policy correctly. Ok, it was my fault but I did actually search and select the UK but it looks like it actually accepted the whole of Europe.
I’m all for transparency and i like the idea that shipping cost are transparent but god is it a messy system for setting it up!
mingerton
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This is more venting frustration but I suppose it's also a tip: Is there a reason why certain sellers on discogs list "make an offer" and then when you do they get back to you with a message that they actually just want to sell it for the price listed? I probably would have paid the listed price, but when they put "make an offer," I feel stupid paying the list price. So then I make an offer, they reject any offer, and I get annoyed and don't end up buying the LP.
Ethos99
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I wish more sellers would use it for items that are rare/special in some way. Like when something has sales numbers all over the map and they can guage interest. If you know you need/want 45$ for an album, don't put make an offer if you're going to refuse them all anyway.
I got dragged into a thread the other day about the use of "XX Anniversary Edition" being used as part of a title of a release
I did FINALLY get staff to say that it can be allowed when used as part of the release - so that's something.
I've been on many threads about that damn guideline 6.1.5 "Text that isn't part of the title but distinguishes the specific release from others"
Usually "whatever Edition Name" isn't used as part of a title - and is just a description of the release - this would go in the FTF.
But some releases make this "Edition Name" part of the title. Some users though that 6.1.5 means that any use of "XX Anniversary Edition" was excluded from being part of the title.
Convincing people was a pain - as this thread from 2 years ago shows - https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/777181
I did FINALLY get staff to say that it can be allowed when used as part of the release - so that's something.
I've been on many threads about that damn guideline 6.1.5 "Text that isn't part of the title but distinguishes the specific release from others"
Usually "whatever Edition Name" isn't used as part of a title - and is just a description of the release - this would go in the FTF.
But some releases make this "Edition Name" part of the title. Some users though that 6.1.5 means that any use of "XX Anniversary Edition" was excluded from being part of the title.
Convincing people was a pain - as this thread from 2 years ago shows - https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/777181
Selaws
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The vast majority of my Discogs sales over the years have been new records (meaning records which were released in the past few years) and I have yet to have an issue. I sold an old jazz record the other week to Canada and have just had a message to say there is a dishwarp and surface noise/distortion. Luckily, I video and take photos of each record before it goes out and there was no issue.
I have offered a sizeable partial refund anyway (22%) but I was wondering what my defence is here. If the buyer comes back and demands a full refund and to cover shipping costs back then I will have lost money overall (shipping was £20 which I would then have to pay twice), would I be in my right to decline? If they accept the partial refund but rate me negatively, can I dispute seeing I have the evidence that there was no issue to begin with?
Im seriously debating just removing all my items for sale at this point, there's been too many issues with Discogs for me in the past couple of weeks.
I have offered a sizeable partial refund anyway (22%) but I was wondering what my defence is here. If the buyer comes back and demands a full refund and to cover shipping costs back then I will have lost money overall (shipping was £20 which I would then have to pay twice), would I be in my right to decline? If they accept the partial refund but rate me negatively, can I dispute seeing I have the evidence that there was no issue to begin with?
Im seriously debating just removing all my items for sale at this point, there's been too many issues with Discogs for me in the past couple of weeks.
I would consider myself as the the seller, when I do sell on there, to be responsible for any damage during transit. I would expect myself to be on the hook for any such damage the same as I’d look for refund/partial refund on anything I’d bought from a shop/Discogs seller with damage on it. If I could prove something was clean going out but damaged on arrival I’d be using that as evidence for a claim with the shipper as I only allow people buying off me to use recorded post. If it’s still playable I think that your offer is fair.
This is a long post but, without realizing it, I've been selling records casually for a long time and I feel like digging into that accidental well of experience for a moment. Lol.
It gets easier and less stressful to communicate with buyers who need help the more you do it. Very rarely is anyone 'pretending' to have an issue just to be annoying. Usually, they're telling you the truth and asking you to help them and an amicable, positive resolution is possible. IMO, it just takes a cool head on your end and a thoughtful choice of words when communicating to turn an "uh oh" customer into a happy one who will leave you positive feedback even when you make a mistake or the record gets warped/damaged in transit.
In the very rare occasion that a buyer gets unusually aggressive or seems like someone who wants to eat up your time, I've given myself the permission to cut my losses and lose some money in order to save sanity and time. I've been selling records (and other stuff) online since I was like 22 off and on, which is about 12 years, and I've definitely lost sleep over some buyers and transactions. In every case, I would much rather have had that time back to spend in a calmer, happier mood than those $30. IMO, it's setting yourself up for anguish, if you approach selling records the way a lot of users on Discogs and non-N&G message boards approach selling records. The customer isn't your opponent or adversary. Winning against potential 'scammers' isn't the goal. There are no 'tricks' to catch scammers or hacks to get PayPal to not enforce their own rules. In many cases, I incorrectly assumed a customer was upset or annoyed and, in hindsight, after everything went fine, I realized my read of the situation was off. Sometimes, I'm the one in a weird mood and I come off strong on a nice, well-meaning customer. IMO, it can be made pretty simple. You sell records. More often than not, you make a profit. Every so often, usually very rarely, you experience a loss. After that, it's your call whether to prolong your agony by fixating on the rare unfortunate transaction or whether you quietly move on and focus on the positive interactions (and profits) and the rest of your day outside of record selling.
Less philosophical and more practical advice is to troubleshoot your grading setup. Double check whether you are grading in a well lit area, whether your slip mat or platter hides warps (my Audio Technica table and slip mat really makes warps seem less pronounced than my U-Turn for some reason), and occasionally test records, if they've been in storage and unplayed for a few months. I've had records go from flat to warped over time, if they'd been on the shelf for a while between when I listed it and when it sold. Over time, I've gotten very good at knowing what light to use to spot dust/surface marks best, how to tell if a skip is permanent or a piece of debris that can be removed, how to assess warps, etc etc, but I'm certain I still make mistakes. I feel like even the best sellers with 100% feedback have made errors that deserve negative feedback but most people are nice and forgiving and don't leave negative reviews.
Anyway, I forgot what I was specifically talking about half-way through this novel.
Selaws
Well-Known Member
Cheers guys, much appreciated.This is a long post but, without realizing it, I've been selling records casually for a long time and I feel like digging into that accidental well of experience for a moment. Lol.
It gets easier and less stressful to communicate with buyers who need help the more you do it. Very rarely is anyone 'pretending' to have an issue just to be annoying. Usually, they're telling you the truth and asking you to help them and an amicable, positive resolution is possible. IMO, it just takes a cool head on your end and a thoughtful choice of words when communicating to turn an "uh oh" customer into a happy one who will leave you positive feedback even when you make a mistake or the record gets warped/damaged in transit.
In the very rare occasion that a buyer gets unusually aggressive or seems like someone who wants to eat up your time, I've given myself the permission to cut my losses and lose some money in order to save sanity and time. I've been selling records (and other stuff) online since I was like 22 off and on, which is about 12 years, and I've definitely lost sleep over some buyers and transactions. In every case, I would much rather have had that time back to spend in a calmer, happier mood than those $30. IMO, it's setting yourself up for anguish, if you approach selling records the way a lot of users on Discogs and non-N&G message boards approach selling records. The customer isn't your opponent or adversary. Winning against potential 'scammers' isn't the goal. There are no 'tricks' to catch scammers or hacks to get PayPal to not enforce their own rules. In many cases, I incorrectly assumed a customer was upset or annoyed and, in hindsight, after everything went fine, I realized my read of the situation was off. Sometimes, I'm the one in a weird mood and I come off strong on a nice, well-meaning customer. IMO, it can be made pretty simple. You sell records. More often than not, you make a profit. Every so often, usually very rarely, you experience a loss. After that, it's your call whether to prolong your agony by fixating on the rare unfortunate transaction or whether you quietly move on and focus on the positive interactions (and profits) and the rest of your day outside of record selling.
Less philosophical and more practical advice is to troubleshoot your grading setup. Double check whether you are grading in a well lit area, whether your slip mat or platter hides warps (my Audio Technica table and slip mat really makes warps seem less pronounced than my U-Turn for some reason), and occasionally test records, if they've been in storage and unplayed for a few months. I've had records go from flat to warped over time, if they'd been on the shelf for a while between when I listed it and when it sold. Over time, I've gotten very good at knowing what light to use to spot dust/surface marks best, how to tell if a skip is permanent or a piece of debris that can be removed, how to assess warps, etc etc, but I'm certain I still make mistakes. I feel like even the best sellers with 100% feedback have made errors that deserve negative feedback but most people are nice and forgiving and don't leave negative reviews.
Anyway, I forgot what I was specifically talking about half-way through this novel.
I might have to explore contacting Royal Mail as it was recorded delivery. The buyer never mentioned damage to the package but there must have been for a dishwarp to appear, again I have checked the videos I took just before packaging it up for transit and it was flat.
I'm still waiting on a response but will update when he/she gets back to me. Im trying to alleviate any issues as much as I can, and if that means taking a big hit to get the record back and fully refund the buyer I think I will just do that over the stress.
In my experience, mainly from VMP damage, as a buyer there actually doesn’t need to be any visible damage on a mailer for warping to occur. The application of heat and the pressure caused by leaning or putting something on top during shipping will show itself much quicker on the fragile record inside than on a sturdy cardboard mailer. If there was packaging damage though ask for a photo.
Good luck with the postal claim, they really can be a nightmare. I’d definitely listen to the advice above though, when selling you are a shop and have to look at it as an overall profit/loss situation like a shop would do and less as a collector selling a bit of your collection to buy new records.
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