I used to add a track and get an extra R&HH for friends. My thinking was at 23 dollars it was only 20 euro may aswell gift my friends something cool. At 30 euro now I'm not sure im that generous. That 30 feeds my vinyl addiction elsewhere lolI know! It’s pretty expensive now!
At least it means we’ll only grab a ROTM when we really like it!☺
Vinyl Me Please Rap & Hip Hop
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NathanRicaud
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Yes, yes, yes! I agree so much with this! The price increase from VMP has also made me be more discerning and that I really think about all my vinyl purchases and how much I really want something in my collection!
Also, I think VMP will be around for at least another year! I’m so glad they proved many people on here and Reddit wrong at the start of this year, who thought VMP weren’t going to survive and were going to close down by mid 2020/become bankrupt! So happy VMP seem to still be doing well!
Also, most people feel like their add-on sub prices are overpriced; it’ll be interesting to see if VMP are able to still do well selling their ROTM’s! It definitely means VMP have to do ROTM’s that make people want to sign up/are going to appeal to their target audience. They can’t do any ROTM’s like the Caroline Rose ROTM they did earlier this year! It won’t sell much at all, with those new VMP prices! VMP need to make sure they deliver excellent ROTM’s, particularly in the Essentials and Rap & Hip-Hop categories!
NathanRicaud
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That’s such a good idea to do an add-on track at USD$23 to get another record as a gift for your friend! I absolutely love that! If I had vinyl friends, I can imagine myself doing the exact same thing, as it’s such good value for money, especially living in Australia where vinyl in general is more expensive compared to the U.S. and UK! Glad you took advantage of the great price while is lasted!
Yeah, at USD$33, it literally becomes the same price as a lot of vinyl here in Australia! After tax, it still comes to AUD$50 which is still decent, as 2LP’s usually retail for around AUD$55-$65 on average here! But yeah, USD$23 for an add-on was such a steal for me! I’m so glad I always had three tracks going at once! I love all the 9 ROTM’s that just got announced (lol trust me out of everyone to be the person who loves all the upcoming ROTM’s from every track that just got announced
) so I’ll still have all 3 tracks going for at least another 3 months, but I can imagine they’ll be a few months next year where I’ll have 2 tracks, and not 3 tracks! 75% of next year though, I think I’ll have 3 tracks going; that’s my prediction!If the price increase thing happened at the start of this year, I would’ve skipped Rick Ross and maybe N*E*R*D! For the Essentials track, I would’ve skipped Caroline Rose and maybe John Mayer! With the sound quality being so great for the John Mayer pressing, I knew I would’ve eventually of grabbed it!
I still would’ve got the Salt-N-Pepa ROTM for USD$33 + tax! It’s a great album and the pressing for Very Necessary is the best sounding one out of all the R&HH ROTM’s this year (along with Prince Paul and N*E*R*D)!
Sound quality is a big thing for me if I’m a bit indecisive on whether or not I want the album! I love a very high quality sounding pressing!
dhodo
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Its funny, I think overall the new prices are absurd and I passed on tons of things for $23 in the past. It was very rare that I ever got 2 albums from them a month. And yet, this is the first month I'm considering getting 3 titles. Currently have Szabo and Stankonia and swapped Redman for JLH. I probably would have kept Redman at $23 but don't think I will spin it enough for $33 even though I think it is a good album.
I need to do some more listening to the Szabo before I decide as I wasn't previously familiar. Hardest because I wasn't planning on spending this much.
I think what the new prices have done is only make me consider it worth using add ons for the AAA better pressing plant titles and makes it easier to pass on GZ DMM like Redman. The only alternatives for Szabo are only $2 cheaper and likely not AAA and JLH is a no brainer. If they extend me the bridge offer, I won't need to decide until next month, so we'll see where I'm at then.
MikeH
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Interesting! I often found myself getting 2-3 albums per month for my monthly sub when the records were announced, whether it was 2 ROTMs or adding on to get a swap. I often swapped even if I wasn't 100% sure on whether I wanted an album or not. I knew that for $23, most of the time, I could get my money back if I wanted to sell it later on. I grabbed albums for friends as well sometimes. That changed a lot in the last 6 months (even before price hikes) because there were less and less things I wanted in swaps. And now with the price hikes, that option has altogether been eliminated for me. There's nothing I would take a punt on for $33 + tax. Even if there were multiple albums per month I wanted, it would be hard to sway me on dropping another $33 on a GZ pressing, especially when a lot of these do not have new remasters or anything and are essentially just new plates from old masters.
dhodo
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A combination of their curation never being a good fit for me and not having much in the way of extra spending money is why I never took chances or got multiples often. I was generally never interested in their DMM stuff unless it was a true exclusive like Noname and Saba, which is why I didn't join until Saba.
4080
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The Redman record is tempting I'm not going to lie but at these prices I have to ask myself, do I really want this? It's not like I've been hunting forever for a copy of this record, this week was the first time I listened to it since maybe the 90's!! I can think I can live without it!
MikeH
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Classics in particular were the ones that I tended to take a gamble on. An AAA soul or jazz record was worth $23 for me even if I hadn't heard the whole thing before. It no longer is at $33 which is AP or MoFi 33rpm prices. I agree that the DMM hip hop stuff has mostly not been worth it for me outside of the true exclusives.
walkingdogs
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Yeah, Muddy Waters has been a long sought after record for me too. I honestly didn't know that up until now the vinyl that had been available was missing the skits. It's great to know that this version has them, as I would have been quite upset to have bought a previous version and find out that it was missing such an important part of the album.I own 2 copies of Stankonia but being such an Outkast stan ill take a third it looks beautiful
walkingdogs
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I can't believe I've never heard this extended version, but after hearing it I am not a fan of the extended version and I much prefer the original. I loved how hype, sweet and short that song was coming off of the Jurassic Park T-Rex intro and then rolling right into the much funkier Rock Da Spot.
The skits on a Redman album are part of the experience for me. It can probably be agreed with anyone who says there are too many especially on something like Malpractice for sure but yeah thrilled this release will have them
scotthilk
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100% agreed.The skits on a Redman album are part of the experience for me. It can probably be agreed with anyone who says there are too many especially on something like Malpractice for sure but yeah thrilled this release will have them
scotthilk
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People Under The Stairs - O.S.T. (2xLP - Gatefold)
With a career spanning two decades and 12 releases, LA duo People Under the Stairs bid farewell last year. Their unique self-produced legacy earned them the designation "The Steely Dan of Hip-Hop" and a worldwide fanbase. Now, for the first time ever, they are reissuing long out-of-print, 2002...
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Hope this means reissues for their other work are coming tooPeople Under The Stairs - O.S.T. (2xLP - Gatefold)
With a career spanning two decades and 12 releases, LA duo People Under the Stairs bid farewell last year. Their unique self-produced legacy earned them the designation "The Steely Dan of Hip-Hop" and a worldwide fanbase. Now, for the first time ever, they are reissuing long out-of-print, 2002...
supahypeag
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"The covers were great. We dreamed about the albums. We listened to the albums in high school. They deserve to be heard. They need to be heard. They're the very definition of the Essential/Classics/RHH tracks.They're a no-brainer."
That help?
MikeH
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so Dreams and People Under The Stairs are both getting other non-VMP releases now it seems? Are there any differences aside from color? I'm guessing Dreams is a bigger difference because both are black vinyl and non-VMP Dreams may not be AAA.People Under The Stairs - O.S.T. (2xLP - Gatefold)
With a career spanning two decades and 12 releases, LA duo People Under the Stairs bid farewell last year. Their unique self-produced legacy earned them the designation "The Steely Dan of Hip-Hop" and a worldwide fanbase. Now, for the first time ever, they are reissuing long out-of-print, 2002...
I could be wrong but I don't think there are many classics picks that had identical re issues using the same master and pressing plants. I can't think of any at all. At least not since they went QRP AAA.
MikeH
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But I also haven't seen them reissue an album that was just reissued by another label. The recent Dreams reissue came out a few months ago I think. Wonder if the difference is just that it was pressed at QRP? If not, seems weird that they took an album that was just reissued, remastered it and pressed it again. And OST getting a reissue at Fat Beats too seems weird.
Yeah Dreams was some obscure European label so that one doesn't surprise me that much, I'm sure it's a different master and pressing plant. But I'm willing to bet that Fat Beats reissue is the exact same master.
EDIT- In fact I just looked and the Dreams pressing that just happened was re-mastered by Martin Bowes so it's definitely not the same plates or master than the VMP