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On second viewing, I've decided that The Last Jedi is not just okay, but v good.
*Ignores thread*
ONE OF US
On second viewing, I've decided that The Last Jedi is not just okay, but v good.
*Ignores thread*
Why did Ben die in like two seconds on screen without warning?
Without warning? There are at least two scenes earlier in the movie when Rey gives away life force to heal, including to Ben. She was dead so the only way to bring her back was for him to use up all his life force, i.e. for him to die instead of her. It would have made no sense if he brought her back AND was able to survive.
I agree it was set up (Rey speaks of giving life force when she heals the snake) but the issues in pacing plagued the film so much that it’s easy to lose track of that stuff. When the entire film feels like a climax there’s no narrative weight to the actual climax, so it’s hard to buy that it’s really “it” for Ben/Ren, and the film wasted all of 1 minute mourning him. I think his death also felt unearned because the film trafficked heavily in fake-out deaths, with Ben/Ren being the biggest of them at the film’s midpoint.
I really do wonder if there was a longer cut of the film closer to 3 hours that just breathed a bit more but was mercilessly chopped down to meet the length we expect from a Star Wars film.
i honestly wish Rey had stayed dead so that Ben could have rose up out of the ashes and carried on the legacy of the skywalkers through blood. I feel it would’ve completed his arc as well much more effectively than just fucking killing him in like a minute scene, with little warning that he’s about to die.
also hot take incoming:
I still think episode 8 is worse
Agreed. Knowing the circumstances around that footage makes it painfully clear that they didn’t really have anything substantial to work with.I think the use of Carrie Fisher is kind of laughable.
Agreed. Knowing the circumstances around that footage makes it painfully clear that they didn’t really have anything substantial to work with.
Edit; oh yeah, and the Carrie Fisher stuff was bad. Like just really, really vague lines they wrote dialogue around and you could tell. I felt nothing for her non-arc.
Haha! This is me as well.Saw it, liked it, cried a bunch, lol.
new trilogy ranking: 8,9,7
Why even off screen? They literally filmed a death scene in TLJ. Everyone I saw that with *thought* they were seeing her final scene, and then they do the clumsy space flight resurrection. It’s not like she contributes that much for the rest of that film...why couldn’t that have been her character’s death? It might have been even more resonant to that film’s themes of the Resistance losing its resources and leadership but fighting anyway.And there's only about 5 lines, and every other shot of her is just an over the shoulder reaction shot. Would have been more meaningful if they had had her die off screen.