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This Riot lineup is 🔥 🔥 🔥

Then again, I really only care if there's 4-5 acts I need to see each day (any more and it gets stressful), and there's def 4-5 I gotta see each day.
 
This Riot lineup is 🔥 🔥 🔥

Then again, I really only care if there's 4-5 acts I need to see each day (any more and it gets stressful), and there's def 4-5 I gotta see each day.
Be pretty cool to see SDRE, and Sunday looks fun, but yeah. Meh
Damn...I love this lineup... what's wrong with y'all?🤔
I would absolutely go and watch a lot of those bands but I've seen plenty of them already. So is there a big ticket band that's worth the $300 for me? not really. I last went in 2014 when GAs went for as low as $70. I paid $150 since I waited to see who was playing first. Seems like every music festival is, at minimum, $300 nowadays.

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I would absolutely go and watch a lot of those bands but I've seen plenty of them already. So is there a big ticket band that's worth the $300 for me? not really. I last went in 2014 when GAs went for as low as $70. I paid $150 since I waited to see who was playing first. Seems like every music festival is, at minimum, $300 nowadays.

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My girlfriend and I were talking about this with Boston Calling which is the same issue. Just going by year for base level prices

2013: $120 (two days at the smaller venue)
2015: $175 (three days at the smaller venue) (Early Bird was $110)
2017: $269 (first year at the bigger open venue - this also resulted in higher tier headliners, albeit not a huge jump)
2019: $264 (this is what I could find though I think it gradually went up and ended around $300ish)
2022: $370 (currently, it was less early on, a fairer quote is probably $350 or so)

Like, the fest grew of course, but it's so much harder to justify a 3 day GA ticket price of $300+ when you can only see so many acts in a day. Even at $175, you probably only need 1-2 artists you'd pay to see a day to make it worth it. Now you kind of need that whole day lineup or at least 4-5 per day (or you would pay to see the headliner). Especially when you have megabills (like Outlaw Fest) that are accessible for a fraction of the price or you can target your priority artists for a fraction of it.

That Riot Fest lineup is a great example - $160 or $175 to take a chance on it? Absolutely. $300? Ehhhhh....
 
My girlfriend and I were talking about this with Boston Calling which is the same issue. Just going by year for base level prices

2013: $120 (two days at the smaller venue)
2015: $175 (three days at the smaller venue) (Early Bird was $110)
2017: $269 (first year at the bigger open venue - this also resulted in higher tier headliners, albeit not a huge jump)
2019: $264 (this is what I could find though I think it gradually went up and ended around $300ish)
2022: $370 (currently, it was less early on, a fairer quote is probably $350 or so)

Like, the fest grew of course, but it's so much harder to justify a 3 day GA ticket price of $300+ when you can only see so many acts in a day. Even at $175, you probably only need 1-2 artists you'd pay to see a day to make it worth it. Now you kind of need that whole day lineup or at least 4-5 per day (or you would pay to see the headliner). Especially when you have megabills (like Outlaw Fest) that are accessible for a fraction of the price or you can target your priority artists for a fraction of it.

That Riot Fest lineup is a great example - $160 or $175 to take a chance on it? Absolutely. $300? Ehhhhh....
Fest promoters are probably trying to squeeze as much as they can out of attendees. But I'd imagine that costs for permits, band fees, and vendors has gone up as well, so it's proportional.
 
Fest promoters are probably trying to squeeze as much as they can out of attendees. But I'd imagine that costs for permits, band fees, and vendors has gone up as well, so it's proportional.

For sure, it just changes the calculus of how worth it it is - we are seeing this with regular concerts too where prices are going up across the board by notable amounts (though I question if a 2x cost over 7 years ago or a 40% premium over 5 years ago isn't just a bit more of a squeeze than needed).
 
(though I question if a 2x cost over 7 years ago or a 40% premium over 5 years ago isn't just a bit more of a squeeze than needed).
It definitely is. But most fans will probably still pay it and they'll make a killing. I've been more selective with what shows I want to see because it's rare you're getting anything under $30 for a regional touring band unless they're local. Factor in fees and it's close to $50. A couple of beers at the show and all of a sudden you're paying like $75 a show. It's starting to be not worth it for a band that I'm not a big fan of.
 
My girlfriend and I were talking about this with Boston Calling which is the same issue. Just going by year for base level prices

2013: $120 (two days at the smaller venue)
2015: $175 (three days at the smaller venue) (Early Bird was $110)
2017: $269 (first year at the bigger open venue - this also resulted in higher tier headliners, albeit not a huge jump)
2019: $264 (this is what I could find though I think it gradually went up and ended around $300ish)
2022: $370 (currently, it was less early on, a fairer quote is probably $350 or so)

Like, the fest grew of course, but it's so much harder to justify a 3 day GA ticket price of $300+ when you can only see so many acts in a day. Even at $175, you probably only need 1-2 artists you'd pay to see a day to make it worth it. Now you kind of need that whole day lineup or at least 4-5 per day (or you would pay to see the headliner). Especially when you have megabills (like Outlaw Fest) that are accessible for a fraction of the price or you can target your priority artists for a fraction of it.

That Riot Fest lineup is a great example - $160 or $175 to take a chance on it? Absolutely. $300? Ehhhhh....

Funny enough, due to Boston Calling selling tickets over two and a half years and losing all three of the original headliners to re-scheduling, injury, or tragedy, the re-sale prices on 3 Day Passes are low to the point where I may end up there. VIP and GA sitting on Stubhub/Vividseats at a fraction of retail - even less than single day values are which makes no sense really.

On that note…anyone have any artists I need to not miss at Boston Calling?

I’ve seen a handful of them before but we don’t have many hard commitments.
 
You know, Festival Jadedness is wild. And I say this with my BC posts above, but this is my first year going to Newport Folk and Brandi Carlile & Friends was just announced. The people on Inforoo seem...sad? About it. Like, I get she's a frequent flier but if I'm ever sad about Brandi Carlile appearing to sing music live at a place I'm at, they should probably just lay me down to rest for good. She's a top tier live performer, outdoors on a summer night in a really chill crowd. I can't imagine much better.

I dunno, I feel like we see this a lot where people get really into something and become impossible to please. It's a bummer. I'm looking so forward to this.
 
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I'm not in festaival shape and the temperature and logistics are really rough but Newport is delivering hard this year. Paul Simon last night was an amazing surprise but pretty much every set I've seen was very very good. Linda Lindas killed, Adia Victoria is a revelation live, etc.
 
I am not uncritical, and will admit that the headliners are seriously underwhelming this year. That said, this is a deep lineup with very little filler. I might be most excited about the bands in the third tier: Frankie & the Witch Fingers, Margo Cilker, Kassi Valazza, and Tobacco City are all going to be rad. Beyond that, Built to Spill and the UK jazz acts (Sons of Kemet, Nubya Garcia, Emma-Jean Thackray) have me fired up.

Regardless, Pickathon is mostly about the experience. Without exaggeration, it is unlike any other festival I have ever been to. Everything is designed so well, amazing food and beverage, no price gouging, all of the little details attended to. We have taken our daughters every year since they were 7 or so, camping on the farm all weekend. I'll typically see 20-25 bands over the course of the weekend, all at close range. I have discovered so many great bands for the first time at Pickathon, before they gained a wider audience. The lineup never blows you away up front, but you always go home with 3-5 of your favorite new bands. Underrated curation in my opinion.

We're going

Plus GZA and Wetleg are on the lineup now.

Surprised nobody mentioned Armand Hammer
 
Also, this Blue Note Jazz festival in Napa Valley on the same weekend is a kick in the balls. That lineup is so much better in my opinion.
 
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