Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

Enoch said:
Yeah, staff members received death threats. They hope it was just trolls, but you never know. I had suggested in my points to talk about to have a "get to the staff" thing but I can fully see why they would not be excited to do such a thing after hearing that.
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I SWEAR TO GOD IF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS CHANGE THE DAMAGE POLICY AND ASK ME TO SEND BACK MY RECORD, ITS GOING TO INCLUDE A BOMB!
 
KenKaniff said:
Did VMP give the real reason(s) why they closed the forum and at that specific time before something else was lined up?
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The reason given today was the forum was created in a much different time in the company's history and is not where the company is today. I get that. He also mentioned that while over 90% of the forum was great, when it got bad it got really bad. He admitted they received great feedback from the forum. He said (and take this however you want) that they thought a space like that should be just about music and not a company.

goodoohuru said:
@Enoch with regard to VMP, for some of us, there is no future. I wont give you a hard time about your """reflections""" comment because I do like you, but to be honest, what was the point of it? Is the intention for you to try and fix Vinyl Me, Please via the N&G community?

Sorry if I've missed something mate.
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You missed that this is a VMP thread on this forum and some people still care (to what degree is up to them). If you don't care that is great you don't have to. If you don't care may I ask why you are even in this thread and feel the need to comment on this? You have checked out, so check out. I know this is very direct, but this thread is set up for people to still follow and get info about VMP and I just gave info, that is the point.
 
Enoch said:
I don't think even joking about death threats is "just a joke," talking about violence against a person or org jokingly or not is just in poor taste, especially when said people and org actually received real threats.
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Hey, I get it. You are a little uneasy talking about and hearing about VMP from some, but it wasnt directed at anyone in particular. Everyone just needs to take a deep breath and move on. All is well
 
Enoch said:
Hey guys, if you want to actually engage in what was shared, I am for it, if you are just going to give me a hard time I just won't interact with you and share anything that you may find relevant in the future
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VMP has said they were gonna do this thing and gonna do that thing for years and years without following through. That's their prerogative, but that is their established history of behavior. Anyone familiar with the history of VMP understands that, overwhelmingly and with few exceptions, they're just spewing words that are not backed by actions. This is not debatable.

I gotta ask: why do you think anything you are sharing is different? The impression I get is that for whatever reason you, to some degree, define yourself by your historical behavior of buying (nearly?) anything exclusive that VMP puts out, and perhaps this makes you take things too personally when someone gets irritated with VMP.

They're just a retailer. Just one of a ton of places to buy records. I've butted heads with them in the past and been banned from their forum a few times, eventually permanently. I still don't have animosity toward them. I purchased the Anthology set. I have an understanding - based on years of history as a customer of theirs - of how they act and what to expect.

Do I personally care what VMP says they might do? Nope. I judge them on their actions, not their words. I might buy from them again in the future and I might not. Depends on if the product seems compelling.

Do I care about your conversations with people at VMP? Nope, not a bit, but others might. Share away if you want, but history has labeled their words as nearly meaningless.
 
High Rant District said:
VMP has said they were gonna do this thing and gonna do that thing for years and years without following through. That's their prerogative, but that is their established history of behavior. Anyone familiar with the history of VMP understands that, overwhelmingly and with few exceptions, they're just spewing words that are not backed by actions. This is not debatable.

I gotta ask: why do you think anything you are sharing is different? The impression I get is that for whatever reason you, to some degree, define yourself by your historical behavior of buying (nearly?) anything exclusive that VMP puts out, and perhaps this makes you take things too personally when someone gets irritated with VMP.

They're just a retailer. Just one of a ton of places to buy records. I've butted heads with them in the past and been banned from their forum a few times, eventually permanently. I still don't have animosity toward them. I purchased the Anthology set. I have an understanding - based on years of history as a customer of theirs - of how they act and what to expect.

Do I personally care what VMP says they might do? Nope. I judge them on their actions, not their words. I might buy from them again in the future and I might not. Depends on if the product seems compelling.

Do I care about your conversations with people at VMP? Nope, not a bit, but others might. Share away if you want, but history has labeled their words as nearly meaningless.
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He is sharing this because some of us have asked for him to keep us up in what they are saying. It doesn't matter if what he is saying is different or not. He is just telling us what they said to him. He doesn't have the answers. Just the messenger. You don't usually shoot those.
 
Enoch said:
You missed that this is a VMP thread on this forum and some people still care (to what degree is up to them). If you don't care that is great you don't have to. If you don't care may I ask why you are even in this thread and feel the need to comment on this? You have checked out, so check out. I know this is very direct, but this thread is set up for people to still follow and get info about VMP and I just gave info, that is the point.
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I don't give a rats arse about US politics, but if its in my face, I'll still read about it and add comment, so settle down. If you don't want to be given a hard time, show the same courtesy! Your 'reflections' comment made no sense 'to me' and I'm curious about your role as the VMP's spokesperson, this makes less sense.
 
goodoohuru said:
I don't give a rats arse about US politics, but if its in my face, I'll still read about it and add comment, so settle down. If you don't want to be given a hard time, show the same courtesy! Your 'reflections' comment made no sense 'to me' and I'm curious about your role as the VMP's spokesperson, this makes less sense.
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And you didn't ask me to clarify, you immediately put me down and said this wasn't helpful because most no longer care.
 
All sounds like positive intentions to me. Thanks for sharing @Enoch.

My only real problems with VMP are the shipping issues and overselling as well as regular damages in transit and uncertainty about replacements. Its a Vinyl subscription company so those things are IMO the most important things in need of fixing and it sounds like they do have plans in place.

Most of the other stuff like pre-announcing records, swaps, how they do pre-orders, transparency about upcoming features, the forum (sorry), etc is really up to them as a company and doesnt ultimately impact my overall enjoyment of the service. I just want them to continue pressing great records, let me buy way too many of them, and send them to me on time and in good condition each month
 
supahypeag said:
Oooooooohhh.....I totally didn’t get that the first read through. I get the tone now. Sarcasm is tough to detect in text form!
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I knew it was sarcasm, but sarcasm about people receiving death threats seems incredibly insensitive to what they actually go through receiving them. I get it is stupid to get to that level about a vinyl company but it doesn't change the fact that real people are behind the receiving end of the threats.
 
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