Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

TheThinWhiteDuke said:
I've written about this at length before- but the first time vinyl crashed was a mass exodus to a superior sounding new format (CD) and the reason the comic/trading card bubble burst was that the majority of the target audience grew out of it leaving wannabe speculators holding the bag with tons of product. I don't need back issues of 90's X-Men anymore- i do and will always need my Hendrix Family reissues.

Predicting a vinyl bubble burst is to either predict music fans are actually going to abandon physical product for good, or that there is going to be something else that will supersede it as far as quality and collectibility. My opinion is the reason the "bubble" is still going over 15 years later is trifold:

- There isn't as much competition for media collector's dollar. With streaming TV and movies, and with 4k not really the game changer that BD was, a lot of people aren't splitting their entertainment budget with TV show box sets or movie upgrades anymore.

- You don't have to buy everything that you kind of like anymore. With Spotify around to scratch the gratification/preview itch, consumers can pick and choose what albums they want to have a special physical copy of. And nothing is taking it's place; we've been through it all at this point and vinyl won out.

- Third and most importantly: Ten years ago the record labels listened to us. A ton of those LP's from 2007-2010 sound like trash. Listeners wanted quality for the price premium. They responded by contracting guys like Bellman/Gray/etc on overdrive to make definitive sounding reissues of tons of albums. So the quality is there.

So I think what you actually have instead of a bubble is a millennial generation (aprox with some X'ers and Zoomers on both sides) that have survived the Recession of 2008 and now the COVID crash and are using their income to fuel a record industry- maybe as a form of escapism (I don't know enough to expound on that). If SHF is any indicator of how long that type of buying behavior can last, this should be going for a long time yet.
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You say it has won out as the physical format but CDs still shift more than double the units that vinyl does. Vinyl has now surpassed CDs in terms of revenue generated, due to its much higher list price, but is still a fair way off in units.
 
ByersVinyl said:
Oddly I was considering this topic myself earlier today, I’ve started to think about greatly reducing my spend to vinyl I will spin a lot, not just FOMO or more just picking up every new release that interests me.
Starting to remind myself i can stream a lot of these albums. God a lot of the time I have the vinyl edition but I stream or at least play it on my Hi-res player a whole lot more (because I’m listening on the move).
I might not have reached this point just yet but I’m bloody close.

These trends or behavioural changes tend to spill out to the populace I notice - so I’m not discounting a vinyl bubble burst. I know I’m no longer prepared to simply accept £30-£40 costs.
Fuck I started by picking up a tonne of secondhand vinyl for 50p. Each !
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I too started buying records for 50p each (I have near-complete collections of Queen, Bowie and the like as a result). I still regularly go to carboot sales (I went to one this morning) and I noticed how my mentality toward buying records completely changes. I'm used to paying around a quid per album at a carboot. When I ask someone how much they are selling them for and they say £4 each, I tell myself that it isn't worth it because they are priced too high. I have 'rejected' countless albums because of this mentality, only to then spend more than this on postage when buying online. It's quite the disparity as some of the best records I have are from carboots, yet I still pay £25 for a new record with £4 postage online. Its really a weird mind-set to have, and I guess it's down to years of buying them for £1, as there really hasn't been a fluctuation in the average sale price for records at carboots. HOWEVER, I have typically found that 'good' records are becoming harder and harder to find. When I first moved to London 8-ish years ago I used to go to carboots with my girlfriend and we would jokingly guess how many Queen albums we would see, as every other stall seemed to be selling them. I can't even remember the last time I saw one now. There are also the people that expect to sell Beatles singles for £20 a pop because they are 'super rare'....and there is unfortunately more and more of those people appearing.
 
Joe Mac said:
You say it has won out as the physical format but CDs still shift more than double the units that vinyl does. Vinyl has now surpassed CDs in terms of revenue generated, due to its much higher list price, but is still a fair way off in units.
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You aren't wrong on the units sold at all- I was mainly speaking on the future; cars aren't being equipped with CD players anymore, the PS4 doesn't even play them (much to my anger and to the indifference of my friends), and it just seems baffling on where CD players are even promoted anymore. I think vinyl is going to be the last man standing
 
TheThinWhiteDuke said:
You aren't wrong on the units sold at all- I was mainly speaking on the future; cars aren't being equipped with CD players anymore, the PS4 doesn't even play them (much to my anger and to the indifference of my friends), and it just seems baffling on where CD players are even promoted anymore. I think vinyl is going to be the last man standing
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I think they’ll both survive as niche. Physical formats are no longer a “convenience product” that you buy expecting to play everywhere, even CDs. Let’s face it despite vinyls revenues now well surpassing CDs they still account for 4% of the music industries revenues, streaming is 80%.

Your casual buyer who likes the top 40 and who used to buy a few singles a month and the odd big album no longer does, they’re on Spotify or Apple Music. Don’t underestimate the economic power of millions of small purchasers over a small amount of lunatics who buy to excess.

Both CDs and vinyl now exist for the people who chose to collect and listen to music on a physical format for whatever reason. If you take that into account look at all the big audio player companies, they all still have significant lines of audiophile CD players and nearly all the All-in-One type HiFi’s still have a CD drive.

There was a generation of collectors that were convinced to swap their Vinyl for CDs and as a mass they absolutely won’t be going back (although some, a few are on this forum, have lol). They are all only in their early 60s and still have more disposable income than our generation who have been financially shat on.

I don’t think you’ll be able to declare a physical format war winner in the next 20-25 years if indeed physical formats persist. All you can say is that music will, like most media, continue move increasingly to cloud based solutions like streaming.
 
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imajindat said:
$50 is insane, especially considering that you can get the recent MFSL T. Rex and Johnny Cash reissues for around that price.
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Holy shit! That’s so true! I plan on grabbing both those MoFi reissues! I really, really want to have them both! Only thing is that it costs me AUD$100 each time purchase them vs AUD$65 to get this Avalanches VMP pressing (USD$46 + no tax and free shipping = AUD$65).

I wish there was an American company, such as Acoustic Sounds, that did free international shipping for orders more than USD$200 or something! Would save me around AUD$22-$30 on average with a MoFi title!
 
NathanRicaud said:
Holy shit! That’s so true! I plan on grabbing both those MoFi reissues! I really, really want to have them both! Only thing is that it costs me AUD$100 each time purchase them vs AUD$65 to get this Avalanches VMP pressing (USD$46 + no tax and free shipping = AUD$65).

I wish there was an American company, such as Acoustic Sounds, that did free international shipping for orders more than USD$200 or something! Would save me around AUD$22-$30 on average with a MoFi title!
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Good luck with that, international shipping is SO expensive from the USA that a company would be insane to offer free international shipping. Which may explain VMP's free international shipping.
 
I’m not interested in the Bicep, The War On Drugs or the Buck Meek exclusives! Those three VMP exclusives are all passed for me! 🙅‍♂️

I’m only interested in The Avalanches VMP exclusive! It’s limited to 2,000 copies, so I’m sure it will hang around for a long time! I’m going to wait until Black Friday and hope they have like a 10%-15% storewide sale! The album doesn’t ship until January 2021, so I’m happy to wait until there’s some kind of storewide sale or coupon that gets released later this year! 😊👍

Looking very forward to the next coupon/storewide sale VMP has! 😄👨‍💻💸
 
wmeugene said:
Good luck with that, international shipping is SO expensive from the USA that a company would be insane to offer free international shipping. Which may explain VMP's free international shipping.
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So frustrating! I’ll definitely be waiting to see what kind of sale Acoustic Sounds has for Black Friday! That will be my priority; to make sure I get into the sale Acoustic Sounds has and save everything in my Wishlist such as the MoFi T. Rex ‘Electric Warrior‘ and Johnny Cash ‘I Walk The Line’!

Will also be very keen to see what kind of sale Blue Note has this Black Friday too!

The three places I’ll be caring about if they have a great Black Friday sale will be:

1. Vinyl Me, Please
2. Acoustic Sounds
3. Blue Note

I’ll also see if Urban Outfitters has a 20% storewide sale or something! If the Mariah Carey ‘Butterfly’ and The Weeknd ‘After Hours’ exclusives are both still in stock, I’ll get them with the storewide sale!

My amplifier kinda broke yesterday, so I won’t be spending much on vinyl in the meantime anyway. I’ll definitely be patient and will wait until Black Friday!
 
NathanRicaud said:
So frustrating! I’ll definitely be waiting to see what kind of sale Acoustic Sounds has for Black Friday! That will be my priority; to make sure I get into the sale Acoustic Sounds has and save everything in my Wishlist such as the MoFi T. Rex ‘Electric Warrior‘ and Johnny Cash ‘I Walk The Line’!

Will also be very keen to see what kind of sale Blue Note has this Black Friday too!

The three places I’ll be caring about if they have a great Black Friday sale will be:

1. Vinyl Me, Please
2. Acoustic Sounds
3. Blue Note

I’ll also see if Urban Outfitters has a 20% storewide sale or something! If the Mariah Carey ‘Butterfly’ and The Weeknd ‘After Hours’ exclusives are both still in stock, I’ll get them with the storewide sale!

My amplifier kinda broke yesterday, so I won’t be spending much on vinyl in the meantime anyway. I’ll definitely be patient and will wait until Black Friday!
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Really hoping for another blue note 30% off sale.
 
NathanRicaud said:
I’m not interested in the Bicep, The War On Drugs or the Buck Meek exclusives! Those three VMP exclusives are all passed for me! 🙅‍♂️

I’m only interested in The Avalanches VMP exclusive! It’s limited to 2,000 copies, so I’m sure it will hang around for a long time! I’m going to wait until Black Friday and hope they have like a 10%-15% storewide sale! The album doesn’t ship until January 2021, so I’m happy to wait until there’s some kind of storewide sale or coupon that gets released later this year! 😊👍

Looking very forward to the next coupon/storewide sale VMP has! 😄👨‍💻💸
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Purposefully not checking out Bicep or Buck Meek. Got WOD and passing on Avalanches because I bet the standard will be all over vinyldeals sooner than later
 
SpinningSince85 said:
Really hoping for another blue note 30% off sale.
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Omg saaaaame! I’ve never ordered from the Blue Note website but international shipping isn’t too bad actually! Only around USD$70 shipping for around 10 albums! 👍

I’m going to just sell some vinyl and work a bit more to make sure it’s not a massive blow on my bank account when I do get like 8-9 tone poets from the store!
 
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