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bfly said:
hello all,
I have given up in my pursuit.

please buy all of the my records and non-ear adapted system for a fair lump sum of 65k.

it's been real!
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I'll give you one of my old cables and a woofer from my ear speakers in exchange for your whole collection.
 
zombie.modernist said:
For me some measurements are useful. For instance I like to whip them out in regards to the VM95ML which I fell in love with subjectively, but folks have this preconceived notion it's bright, which isn't true to my ears, or to the measures I took with the old CBS record, so by all measures I find that to be wrong. It was interesting to me to see the data plotted as an additional form of confirmation, even though that's very scientific lol. There's no way in hell my speakers and amp measure well, both being from the late 70s, but I like them both, and don't really care how they measure at all.

I think we need ASR, as a platonic concept because the data is interesting. Amir personally? He can exit stage left lol. He'll never be taken seriously in the wider community as long as he refuses to listen to the gear or claim he's too busy to do so.
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Lots of gear from the late ‘70s measures well ( especially amps/receivers) but don’t sound as good as the measurements indicate.

Specs are useful for system matching (amp power/speaker sensitivity or arm mass/cartridge compliance) but not much more. You can’t tell how something will sound from specs any more than you can tell the difference between an Alfa and a Mercedes by looking at performance charts. Speed? Sure. Braking and handling- maybe. Overall feel/driving experience? Nope.

I’ve read that Amir actually doesn’t like music.
 
HiFi Guy said:
Lots of gear from the late ‘70s measures well ( especially amps/receivers) but don’t sound as good as the measurements indicate.

Specs are useful for system matching (amp power/speaker sensitivity or arm mass/cartridge compliance) but not much more. You can’t tell how something will sound from specs any more than you can tell the difference between an Alfa and a Mercedes by looking at performance charts. Speed? Sure. Braking and handling- maybe. Overall feel/driving experience? Nope.

I’ve read that Amir actually doesn’t like music.
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I agree completely. The next step into foolishness is listening to needledrops or even worse some Zeos speaker sample crap over YT. That's equally divorced from reality.

As for Amir, I'll quote ABBA:

Thank you for the music, the songs I'm singing
Thanks for all the joy they're bringing
Who can live without it, I ask in all honesty
What would life be?
 
zombie.modernist said:
For me some measurements are useful. For instance I like to whip them out in regards to the VM95ML which I fell in love with subjectively, but folks have this preconceived notion it's bright, which isn't true to my ears, or to the measures I took with the old CBS record, so by all measures I find that to be wrong. It was interesting to me to see the data plotted as an additional form of confirmation, even though that's very scientific lol. There's no way in hell my speakers and amp measure well, both being from the late 70s, but I like them both, and don't really care how they measure at all.

I think we need ASR, as a platonic concept because the data is interesting. Amir personally? He can exit stage left lol. He'll never be taken seriously in the wider community as long as he refuses to listen to the gear or claim he's too busy to do so.
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My dad, who's the guy responsible for getting me into HiFi in the first place, is a nuclear physicist and so naturally falls more on the data-and-measurements side of the spectrum. When we swapped out the phenolic tweeters on my Fortes for titanium, we took measurements before and after. He noted the phenolics measured better. I liked the sound of the titanium. He took the old diaphragms as backups for his own Fortes.

After I bought my JoLida tube amp, I mentioned to him a few times about how something as simple as rolling the single output tube had a surprising effect on the overall sound of the amplifier. Given his nature, he was dubious, and came over toting an omnidirectional mic and some measurement software. We did measurements with Gold Lion, Tung Sol, and JJ 12ax7s installed. To my surprise, they all measured more or less the same. My father gloated.

But then we did a blind test.

"Well shit," he said after a few minutes. "There is something to it."
 
HiFi Guy said:
Lots of gear from the late ‘70s measures well ( especially amps/receivers) but don’t sound as good as the measurements indicate.

Specs are useful for system matching (amp power/speaker sensitivity or arm mass/cartridge compliance) but not much more. You can’t tell how something will sound from specs any more than you can tell the difference between an Alfa and a Mercedes by looking at performance charts. Speed? Sure. Braking and handling- maybe. Overall feel/driving experience? Nope.

I’ve read that Amir actually doesn’t like music.
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I’d feel more confident buying a car blind on its on its 0-60 than hifi gear based on its specs (famous last words as he sails straight on at great pace in a hairpin bend...)
 
Joe Mac said:
My opinion. Art is about emotions, not measurements. So long as you ain’t gunna dangerously overload anything bin the measurements.
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The one problem is that we created a barrier to the emotions
 
duke86fan said:
The one problem is that we created a barrier to the emotions
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Barriers and obstacles exist be obliterated. It’s really simple with music. Don’t focus on your gear and wish it was something else that someone else told you was better. Close your eyes, listen and decide for yourself whether it moves you.
 
Joe Mac said:
True but equally I’d rather films at 24fps than the distracting photo realistic 60fps+. It’s less realistic empirically but it’s actually cinematic.
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I mean, I agree, but that's objectively how most movies are filmed, so of course that's how I want to watch them.

I'm just saying, accuracy matters, because accuracy is objective. It's something all musicians and all producers can use as a baseline. It's just not everything.
 
Joe Mac said:
Barriers and obstacles exist be obliterated. It’s really simple with music. Don’t focus on your gear and wish it was something else that someone else told you was better. Close your eyes, listen and decide for yourself whether it moves you.
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BURN MONEY

DEATH TO CAPITALISM
 
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