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She entered this conversation when she commented on the ig post. I linked to see if it was really his wife or just a joke and, when I clicked on her profile image -- since I'm still a dummy and forget it won't enlarge, but generate a story -- saw the contempt that her household has for the collective customer base, which she views as unappreciative and cruel. When she mentions scrappiness, she seems to paint the customers and the "damage" they cause as the only real obstacle, rather than the choices of VMP, which she writes off as understandable goofs. But, most importantly, she personally stated that she wanted to deliver that message to every individual "negative" commenter being critical of their company. By posting that here, it's been delivered.

It's just a comment in a thread in a section of a forum. It's not a reddit post or any call to action against her, so I don't think it's wrong for us to see it and, apparently, she doesn't either. According to her, she wanted us to.

Like I said before, I wouldn't personally contact her, but I don't think commenting on her statements about us is out of line.
Fair enough. Agree to disagree on this one. Like I said, I don’t think anybody did anything objectively wrong here, just my opinion about it. In the end, she didn’t respond to every commenter who complained, and her message was broadcast only to her 700 followers; it was an inadvisable message, but anybody who expected her not to stand by her man would have been disappointed. Since she’s not commenting as a representative of VMP, and isn’t responsible for VMP’s decisions, it’s only noteworthy because the people who are never weigh in.

i'll chime in here to say n&g staff are pretty much having the same discussion about this as you two and others who have commented similarly are. bringing in comments made elsewhere by individuals connected to vmp by proxy - especially family - that are not directly responsible for the company's issues, and that result in those individuals being contacted by people specifically being made aware of it here, is something that is a bit of a moral quandary for us to wade through. like indy said, nothing done so far has been objectively wrong, and if anyone making public comments on the internet expects those comments to remain within their sphere, then that's on them. our primary concern is that our community treats those individuals with respect (both on here and elsewhere) and with an understanding that they are not the ones who should be contacted to help fix things in any capacity, and that they do not become the focus of conversations or a target of harrassment surrounding the ongoing issues facing vmp.
 
i'll chime in here to say n&g staff are pretty much having the same discussion about this as you two and others who have commented similarly are. bringing in comments made elsewhere by individuals connected to vmp by proxy - especially family - that are not directly responsible for the company's issues, and that result in those individuals being contacted by people specifically being made aware of it here, is something that is a bit of a moral quandary for us to wade through. like indy said, nothing done so far has been objectively wrong, and if anyone making public comments on the internet expects those comments to remain within their sphere, then that's on them. our primary concern is that our community treats those individuals with respect (both on here and elsewhere) and with an understanding that they are not the ones who should be contacted to help fix things in any capacity, and that they do not become the focus of conversations or a target of harrassment surrounding the ongoing issues facing vmp.

I have not read her stuff beyond what was posted here but didn't someone clearly state that she does in fact work with/for VMP? So your assessment is a little disingenuous.
 
I have not read her stuff beyond what was posted here but didn't someone clearly state that she does in fact work with/for VMP? So your assessment is a little disingenuous.

As much as I want to get this, Clint Howard, I think we need to confirm that Whateverhernameis actually gets a paycheck from VMP before anyone goes wherever that would go...

EDIT: I also tend to think that we should leave her out of it. Unless she has some sort of control over VMP, bashing her influencer naivete is punching down.
 
As much as I want to get this, Clint Howard, I think we need to confirm that Whateverhernameis actually gets a paycheck from VMP before anyone goes wherever that would go...

EDIT: I also tend to think that we should leave her out of it. Unless she has some sort of control over VMP, bashing her influencer naivete is punching down.

I don't think it's punching down at all to call out someone for their negative behaviour while they're trying to gaslight people into a bullshit situation. She is clearly blaming customers for her husband's terrible job and doing it on a very public forum. Yes, we all have the right to free speech (gonna nip that one in the bud) but with that comes repercussions for what we state on social media. This isn't 2009, people can't pretend social media is separate from their professional lives. She weighed in on something she either knows nothing about or is viewing through a very distorted lense and should be corrected.

I don't give a shit if a flat earther is a mom or not, I will correct them on social media every time.
 
I don't think it's punching down at all to call out someone for their negative behaviour while they're trying to gaslight people into a bullshit situation. She is clearly blaming customers for her husband's terrible job and doing it on a very public forum. Yes, we all have the right to free speech (gonna nip that one in the bud) but with that comes repercussions for what we state on social media. This isn't 2009, people can't pretend social media is separate from their professional lives. She weighed in on something she either knows nothing about or is viewing through a very distorted lense and should be corrected.

I don't give a shit if a flat earther is a mom or not, I will correct them on social media every time.

You just explained why I loathe social media and stay away from all of those platforms. It makes it easy to be awful to strangers.

EDIT: if this forum is considered social media, it's the only one I participate in. I guess I must like you all 😉
 
I don't think it's punching down at all to call out someone for their negative behaviour while they're trying to gaslight people into a bullshit situation. She is clearly blaming customers for her husband's terrible job and doing it on a very public forum. Yes, we all have the right to free speech (gonna nip that one in the bud) but with that comes repercussions for what we state on social media. This isn't 2009, people can't pretend social media is separate from their professional lives. She weighed in on something she either knows nothing about or is viewing through a very distorted lense and should be corrected.

I don't give a shit if a flat earther is a mom or not, I will correct them on social media every time.

I mean.. yeah.

I feel like lashing out at family members (however available for the lashing) only serves to dilute our message.

That being said... yeah. She seems like a bunch of words I'm not going to post on the internet.
 
You just explained why I loathe social media and stay away from all of those platforms. It makes it easy to be awful to strangers.

I mean I don't disagree with you but it's weird that you got that, if anything, from my statement. I was talking about calling people out on their terrible behaviour and you seem to read that as being awful to strangers. To each their own I guess?
 
I mean.. yeah.

I feel like lashing out at family members (however available for the lashing) only serves to dilute our message.

That being said... yeah. She seems like a bunch of words I'm not going to post on the internet.

She is speaking about customers on a public forum, fuck her for doing that in the first place. If someone's significant other attacks me on social media, I don't give a shit whether he/she was originally involved at all. They have involved themselves, not the other way around. Don't get it twisted.
 
She is speaking about customers on a public forum, fuck her for doing that in the first place. If someone's significant other attacks me on social media, I don't give a shit whether he/she was originally involved at all. They have involved themselves, not the other way around. Don't get it twisted.

I don't disagree with you. I would just choose to not respond.
 
I mean I don't disagree with you but it's weird that you got that, if anything, from my statement. I was talking about calling people out on their terrible behaviour and you seem to read that as being awful to strangers. To each their own I guess?

It's true... there was more to what you were saying. Also, I really don't like social media culture so that's where my thoughts went to.
 
FWIW, her website that was mentioned earlier cites a single consultation session to streamline CS/zendesk processes
That must of been an awkward day at the VMP office.

Matt: Hi Paulie, my wife is going to help you figure out this whole mess of customer tickets today. Ok?
Paulie: Uh, but I am the Customer Service Team Leader.
Matt: Thats fine, you can be the Team Leader again tomorrow.
 
I don’t think anyone here has necessarily done, or said, anything wrong. Still let’s move on before someone does...

@Clint Howard , excuse my ignorance but are you the Clint Howard from Ice Cream Man or someone posing as the man, the myth, the legend?

The legend. Was hoping to hang out here long enough for someone to offer to press up my punk band's vinyls...

 
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