thats EXACTLY why that would the VMP choice
Vinyl Me Please Essentials
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doncornelius
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Velvet Mood is not a bad choice, even though it is not highly regarded as Lady Sings the Blues. It does have the advantage of being fresh, as it has not been reissued heavily. I have a Japanese vinyl version from the 70s, and now I have a good excuse to dig it out and play it.
But if this is indeed the pick, why would they go with one that does not feature Billie Holiday on the cover?
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But if this is indeed the pick, why would they go with one that does not feature Billie Holiday on the cover?
Billie Holiday - Velvet Mood
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parnell17
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The temptation as a non-member to come back as soon as VMP comes up with records you truly love is certainly there. If they come up with Badu and Holiday, I usually would've signed up for three month term in next to no time, but with the recent increse in prices I'm really wondering if I have to call it quits with VMP forever. I got my Fiona Apple records and luckily the VMP variants haven't been the best with the last few releases I was interested in, so there's usually always a better (and cheaper!) alternative.
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Selaws
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Bit of useless information but Questlove from The Roots was the producer on Like Water For Chocolate. In his book, Mo' Meta Blues, he refers to the album a lot. By all accounts, the album was a time consuming one to produce but at the end he thought of it as one of Common's greatest albums.Anything for you Johnny!
Even though I was too young to know, I could imagine Like Water For Chocolate being a big deal! It’s just such a great album! I’m gonna spin it later today! ♥
It was definitely a big enough hit when released to justify being picked imo.
NathanRicaud
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This is great information! Thank you for sharing that Selaws! Now that I’m thinking about it, Common’s Like Water For Chocolate is definitely big enough to be an Essentials ROTM! OutKast is just a ‘bigger’ Essentials pick in comparison. So I think that’s why my first thought was “Nah, Common’s Like Water For Chocolate isn’t big enough to be an Essentials pick”! It’s just because OutKast’s Stankonia is a monster Essentials pick!
DiaryBabyFan83
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I'm not a big Common fan, but I respect Like Water....
It would not be a good Essentials pick. It would be a great RHH pick. I look at RHH picks as essential within the genre (they could be too outside of it, but that's not in question - that's just the minimum).
For Essentials, it should transcend genre and have an impact on (popular) music.
That's how I look at it. I'm not going to pretend that's how VMP looks at it. Ought and is.
Also, if Stankonia is a monster and Like Water isn't as "big", then it's a baby. Or, a baby monster. We'll have to get your confidence up!
NathanRicaud
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Omg, yes Lord Diaper Baby! I actually agree with you there! Like Water For Chocolate would work better as a R&HH ROTM than it would as an Essentials ROTM!
Stankonia is an absolute Monster pick for the Essentials track! OutKast’s Southernplayalisticadilacmuzik sold out instantly when it was announced as a R&HH ROTM. VMP repressed it instantly! Stankonia is going to be very popular, and will have VMP gaining a lot of new subscribers!
I’m so excited to see the whole package for OutKast’s Stankonia! I can’t wait to see it all! I love the album so much, and the song Ms. Jackson is one of my favourite hip-hop tracks of all-time!
DiaryBabyFan83
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Southernplayalisticadilacmuzik is an example like Common - a fantastic RHH pick. I think it would be a bad Essentials pick. It's a dope album but it didn't have the impact outside of hip hop like Stankonia - Outkast were certainly not at their commercial zenith till Stankonia (in fact, as a crude measure, the only Billboard #1's came from Stankonia and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below) and you can also argue that the diverse musical influences that went into Stankonia contribute to its Essentialism.Omg, yes Lord Diaper Baby! I actually agree with you there! Like Water For Chocolate would work better as a R&HH ROTM than it would as an Essentials ROTM!
Stankonia is an absolute Monster pick for the Essentials track! OutKast’s Southernplayalisticadilacmuzik sold out instantly when it was announced as a R&HH ROTM. VMP repressed it instantly! Stankonia is going to be very popular, and will have VMP gaining a lot of new subscribers!
I’m so excited to see the whole package for OutKast’s Stankonia! I can’t wait to see it all! I love the album so much, and the song Ms. Jackson is one of my favourite hip-hop tracks of all-time!
(Note: you can argue that there are better Outkast albums, like Aquemini - I certainly would [in fact, I'd put ATliens before it too]; but I would even argue that Aquemini would be a better RHH than Essential pick)
NathanRicaud
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Aquemini would be a magnificent Essentials pick! That’s where OutKast started to really show their experimental, left-field, innovative side! Aquemini is definitely more in the Essentials wheelhouse than R&HH wheelhouse in my opinion! I think I prefer ATLiens a tiny bit more over Aquemini though! They are both incredible albums! But ATLiens is definitely more suited to being a R&HH pick!
Just listen to the track SpottieOttieDopaliscious! That track alone is just
and is a track so many people, regardless of what genre of music they enjoy the most, would absolutely love!
DiaryBabyFan83
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But I don't agree with any of that. I think you have a difficult time removing bias or perspective (i.e., I love it so it must be universally so).Aquemini would be a magnificent Essentials pick! That’s where OutKast started to really show their experimental, left-field, innovative side! Aquemini is definitely more in the Essentials wheelhouse than R&HH wheelhouse in my opinion! I think I prefer ATLiens a tiny bit more over Aquemini though! They are both incredible albums! But ATLiens is definitely more suited to being a R&HH pick!
Just listen to the track SpottieOttieDopaliscious! That track alone is just
Again, I think Aquemini is a superior album....but in my record club it would not be an essential pick.
Of course, I clearly see RHH and Classics as having the sub text of (Essential) RHH and (Essential) Classics, with the actual Essentials as being genre agnostic.
I would totally desert island pack Aquemini before Stankonia, but if I made a record club I'd have my SELF take a step back and accept that the island isn't deserted.
NathanRicaud
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I prefer ATLiens moreso than Aquemini and I wouldn’t pick ATLiens to be an Essentials ROTM! I definitely don’t think I am bias!
I would also make André 3000’s The Love Below an Essentials ROTM! But, that would be impossible as the label/OutKast wouldn’t allow such a thing to happen (choosing one half of an album over the other!).
Look at the last 5 Essentials ROTM’s that are hip-hop albums! Clipse, The Roots, Main Source, The Notorious B.I.G. & De La Soul. How is OutKast’s Aquemini not in the Essentials wheelhouse? It’s because Stankonia exists, that you think that!
Aquemini is a spiritual, lush, curious yet fearless, lyrically potent and an electric album that saw OutKast building upon the spacey/left-field side of ATLiens. The experimental tracks on Aquemini are focused and are blissful, beautiful and trippy!
Aquemini was commercially more successful than most of the last 5 hip-hop Essentials ROTM’s! It debuted at #2 on the Billboard and went 2 x platinum!
Aquemini is definitely an Essentials ROTM! It’s only because Stankonia exists, that you think there could only be one OutKast album that could be an Essentials pick!
DiaryBabyFan83
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Touche….I'll give you that and I stand corrected.
Lol...I wouldn't make either half of that album a RHH or straight essentials pick...and I think it's a great album!
Here you're talking about VMP logic. I'm talking about Diaper Baby Monster logic. I wouldn't have put all those albums as essentials, though I like all of them.
NathanRicaud
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Diaper Baby Monster must have very high expectations then!
What hip-hop albums would you put in the Essentials ROTM wheelhouse then?
N.W.A.’s Straight Outta Compton, NaS’ Illmatic, A Tribe Called Quest’s The Low End Theory and Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly?!?
DiaryBabyFan83
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That's a difficult one....if we're parsing between Essentials and RHH?Diaper Baby Monster must have very high expectations then!
What hip-hop albums would you put in the Essentials ROTM wheelhouse then?
N.W.A.’s Straight Outta Compton, NaS’ Illmatic, A Tribe Called Quest’s The Low End Theory and Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly?!?
Straight Essentials (and I'm shooting off the top of my head, as this isn't something I've often considered):
Ready to Die, Ilmatic, TPAB (I'd also accept Good Kid), MBDTF, Black Album....I mean there's a lot more but there are also a lot of hip hop albums I absolutely love that would get the RHH. There are albums I want to think of but then vacillate if I'd consider them Essential Essential.
I think what I'd really need to do is make a strict criteria for the category first and then checklist it down the album to see if it meets it. Right now I'm just hip shootin'. Pew pew!
No sorry. Just flipped Side A and didn't notice a thing.
keylime_5
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December Essentials has gotta be Lady Sings The Blues and December Classics has gotta be Diana Ross because Diana Ross played Billie Holiday in the biopic film Lady Sings The Blues
my copy of spiritualized sounds pretty good. i'm not a hardcore audiophile myself (im moving to an ortofon next year and a better amplifier). but it seems like there is no distortion and pretty fine
the only issue is that the labels only say a and b.. no C and D
the only issue is that the labels only say a and b.. no C and D
ByersVinyl
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Looking forward to getting this one. This and the Jimmy Bell AOTM are two albums im getting and am blind to both. Ive heard Spiritualized but a long time ago and never one I played much, I could dig out the CD or pop on Spoti but gonna wait on both to arrive
displayname
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That's by design. Record 1 is labeled 01A and 01B. Record 2 is 02A and 02B.