Vinyl Me Pauly (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

I remember the launch shenanigans. @Joe Mac is spot on.

Anthology was a decent gimmick with the monthly shipments and blind buying of titles with a podcast BUT the price made the gimmick hard to swallow. Blue Note was a fucking clusterfuck, wouldn’t have minded a couple of the others but they only got more expensive even when they removed the gimmicks that actually made them halfway interesting.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
Take the single albums out of the box and you will probably play them more often. Doing this with all my box sets was a game changer for me.
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yeah probably... when things are naturally packed in a box you automatically combine them together and try to listen in full... thus kinda ruins the original experience... probably the reason I'll never be able to talk about 69 love songs (physical media helps it a bit by splitting it into sides and discs but on streaming all that context disappears into the void of CONTENT)
 
Nee Lewman said:
I remember the launch shenanigans. @Joe Mac is spot on.

Anthology was a decent gimmick with the monthly shipments and blind buying of titles with a podcast BUT the price made the gimmick hard to swallow. Blue Note was a fucking clusterfuck, wouldn’t have minded a couple of the others but they only got more expensive even when they removed the gimmicks that actually made them halfway interesting.
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wait a minute..

THIS IS JUJST A BOX SET
 
Nee Lewman said:
I remember the launch shenanigans. @Joe Mac is spot on.

Anthology was a decent gimmick with the monthly shipments and blind buying of titles with a podcast BUT the price made the gimmick hard to swallow. Blue Note was a fucking clusterfuck, wouldn’t have minded a couple of the others but they only got more expensive even when they removed the gimmicks that actually made them halfway interesting.
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List price was definitely high. Most ended up on sale at some point. miles, cadet, Grateful Dead, impulse all hit 40% off at one point when cam put everything including preorders on sale hah
 
MikeH said:
List price was definitely high. Most ended up on sale at some point. miles, cadet, Grateful Dead, impulse all hit 40% off at one point when cam put everything including preorders on sale hah
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probably listed so high because they pressed so much of them because they were scared of selling out.. which lead to less people buying them so they had to make them more expensive to break even
 
Miles was the only one I would’ve paid list price at the time.

I cleaned up during the sales, and tbh wish I picked up the ones I passed on at that price (Waylon, Memphis). I couldn’t justify picking up that much vinyl from one place in a short span. In retrospect though they were pretty damn cool.

Also, I’m crazy about keeping box sets separate on the shelf. Like I take out each disc in the Dylan Bootlegs. Otherwise I never spin them
 
duke86fan said:
probably listed so high because they pressed so much of them because they were scared of selling out.. which lead to less people buying them so they had to make them more expensive to break even
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I think they just ended up paying a lot to license many of those titles, get tapes etc. I can’t imagine how much the Grateful Dead box cost to license.
 
Joe Mac said:
Were you active much on their forum before they bombed it? I think of you more as being of here rather than of there…

Anyway they launched the forum thread whilst furniture shopping in ikea. They planted vinyl junkies as a hype man and gave him hints or product or something like that in return for him going full on Nathan in the thread. He was so comical he got the piss ripped something rotten, he went psycho and then did a YouTube hammering VMP and their online community and then took it down a day or two later.

It’s not even about the music picked tbh. I just didn’t get what it was trying to be or what its concept was or why it existed
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I remember that melt down. It was like watching a car crash happen in slow motion.
 
MikeH said:
I still don’t get how they walked away with the plant but good for them!
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My guess is because of the age of the plant it is still financially extremely upside down financially with loans, and unlike VMP back stock records it would be much harder to flip those machines without massive losses.

The only way to make a penny off that business will be to run it for at least 5 years. PE and bankruptcy buyers don’t like to run businesses. They do like restructuring debt and offloading elsewhere. Possibly to the former owners in the form of a pressing plant.

folsom_lives said:
So this makes like what, five(?) vinyl clubs we have witnessed/documented the collapse of?
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I think this just shows the lack of scalability in this business model. I really believe this could work, but you kind of need to accept a natural cap. Maybe 6 releases/year. All done to the best quality, for $50/album or less. Capped at maybe 2000/release. And that will make revenue but no one is getting rich. Going beyond that just never scales.
 
My issue with the anthologies is that it only really works if you are unfamiliar with the artist (and therefore have none of the albums), in which case there's less chance you would spend a premium on it.

Or, you are familiar with the artist and enjoy their music but don't happen to have the albums in that set, which seems unlikely.

I pushed for the Herbie set having 1 of the albums and mentally factored that one out (pushing the cost of the others up). If I had 1 or 2 more from that set I wouldnt have seen the financial justification behind it.
 
Selaws said:
My issue with the anthologies is that it only really works if you are unfamiliar with the artist (and therefore have none of the albums), in which case there's less chance you would spend a premium on it.

Or, you are familiar with the artist and enjoy their music but don't happen to have the albums in that set, which seems unlikely.

I pushed for the Herbie set having 1 of the albums and mentally factored that one out (pushing the cost of the others up). If I had 1 or 2 more from that set I wouldnt have seen the financial justification behind it.
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You are massively underestimating the collector factor here. Logic need not apply.
 
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