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Watching show on Vice about the war on drugs.

It's absolutely mind boggling that our legal system is setup this way. More than half the states in the US have a 3 strikes and you're out law.

Laws where your third conviction for say possession of a joint is automatic 13 to 40 years in jail.

And these laws disadvantage the poor and minorities more than anything. If you can't pay bond you sit in jail for 60 to 90 days and you plead guilty to just get out of jail. If you are a minority or from a poor neighborhood your are more likely to be a repeat offender and thus get longer sentences.


Unbelievable.
 
Indymisanthrope said:
I didn't hear it, so I can't defend how he did or didn't articulate it, but it's a valid concern. The president is not the only office up for grabs in November, and if having a socialist at the top of the ticket depresses turnout, or causes voters to split their votes, a lot of downticket candidates might suffer.

The Center for Politics at UVA released this projection today of an electoral map if Sanders is the nominee:

The Sanders Tax – Sabato's Crystal Ball

centerforpolitics.org

These projections all come down to, once again, PA and WI. And the chances of retaking the Senate dwindle. Are these projections correct? I don't know. I don't know how to cut through the noise of enthusiasm for Sanders on the one hand and abject terror on the other, but if the concerns of the latter are valid, then the potential impact to non-presidential races can't be overstated.

It's not just about staying in office: if Clyburn loses, the other guy wins.
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If Trump wins re-election the Dems would likely also not retake the Senate and would also almost certainly lose seats in the house. If you believe a Progressive can win the Presidency and a Moderate cannot that is decidedly more of a mitigating factor in determining the success of down ballot candidates. Of course if you do not agree with the aforementioned statement then maybe a moderate would help more.
 
dhodo said:
Considering he regularly gets greater than 70% in his district, I don't think there is any real chance of him losing.

I don't disagree that they are valid concerns I guess I'm just being idealistic and wishing we were talking more about making things better than electability. I think it's fair to say that this year above others electability is more important, however, I think the last election proved that we don't understand how to accurately gauge electability.
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
If Trump wins re-election the Dems would likely also not retake the Senate and would also almost certainly lose seats in the house. If you believe a Progressive can win the Presidency and a Moderate cannot that is decidedly more of a mitigating factor in determining the success of down ballot candidates. Of course if you do not agree with the aforementioned statement then maybe a moderate would help more.
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Honestly, I think the UVA projections that basically give Trump an automatic 248-260 electoral votes out of the gate are insanely terrifying. He shouldn't be this hard to beat no matter which one of the Dem candidates ends up being the nominee. He shouldn't be hard to beat, at all. This is all madness.
 
Indymisanthrope said:
Honestly, I think the UVA projections that basically give Trump an automatic 248-260 electoral votes out of the gate are insanely terrifying. He shouldn't be this hard to beat no matter which one of the Dem candidates ends up being the nominee. He shouldn't be hard to beat, at all. This is all madness.
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Agreed, TBH at the moment (unfortunately this feeling rises and falls throughout the election season) I kinda think Dems could put together a winning coalition with either group. I look at the 2016 matchup and it was incredibly close within the states that decided the election. Trump has done little to expand his base and I would argue likely turned off more than a few people who who hated Hillary and were willing to give him a chance. I have a tough time on the other hand imagining any Hillary voters flipping Trump’s way. To me that would open up the Democrats to either win by driving up support for Millennials and minorities (while maybe turning off a group of voters that likely did not vote for Clinton last time out anyhow) by nominating a progressive or by gaining support in moderates, and disenchanted GOPer’s (but potentially losing some of the millennial and minority support that again was also lacking in Clinton’s ‘16 bid). I have more faith in the later being successful than the former just in the fact that there are more millennials and minorities to draw votes from than the I believe there are moderates but I can see paths (albeit narrow) for either group.
 
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Suffolks Downs, a former horse racing track is a 149 acer of land in Boston / Revier is being developed as premium retail, business and luxury apartment space.

Bernie Sanders weighed in on this saying they should build affordable housing.

The response Bernie got from developers was "Ok Boomer, that makes absolutely zero financial sense."

And yes, they did in fact use the term OK Boomer :oops:

The development of Suffolks Downs is expected to further contribute to rising property values and the forcing out of minorities and low income people from East Boston and Revier.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
Suffolks Downs, a former horse racing track is a 149 acer of land in Boston / Revier is being developed as premium retail, business and luxury apartment space.

Bernie Sanders weighed in on this saying they should build affordable housing.

The response Bernie got from developers was "Ok Boomer, that makes absolutely zero financial sense."

And yes, they did in fact use the term OK Boomer :oops:

The development of Suffolks Downs is expected to further contribute to rising property values and the forcing out of minorities and low income people from East Boston and Revier.
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Do you ever feel like people using "OK Boomer" don't really understand it's definition? I mean, my nephew, who's 10, uses it constantly.............and has no idea............but he's 10.
 
Phaneronic said:
OKAY It's a fun headline but apparently the original poll asked whether consumers would drink Corona, without mentioning the virus at all. AND I'M THE 38%!
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LOL, then I rescind my criticism. Also I have an affinity for cheap domestic (kinda?) non-lite beer. A slice of lime and a pinch of salt and it’s summer time! (Though, again TBH, I prefer Modelo). 🍺
 
While this article is a couple months old now it's pretty significant.

www.timesfreepress.com

Crisis looms in antibiotics as drugmakers go bankrupt | Chattanooga Times Free Press

At a time when germs are growing more resistant to common antibiotics, many companies that are developing new versions of the drugs are hemorrhaging money and going out of business, gravely undermining efforts to contain the spread of deadly, drug-resistant bacteria.
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The basic summary is the pharmaceutical giants like Novartis and Allergan have abandoned the antibiotics sector in America. Antibiotics are not considered profitable because you take them and cure the issue. They are not a maintenance medication where the pharmaceutical giants can maintain a constant revenue stream.

Our healthcare system is geared for producing profitable drugs that you have to take for the rest of your life. Life saving drugs that cure such as antibiotics do not appeal to the pharmaceutical industry as they don't turn a profit. Thus we run into the issue where the giants don't even make them anymore.

What's worse, is small startups that came in to fill the void are going bankrupt. The barriers to entry into the pharmaceutical industry are just too high and antibiotics don't turn enough profit to support them.

This could lead to a very serious situation where we may run into a antibiotics shortage in the near future.
 
AnthonyI said:
Do you ever feel like people using "OK Boomer" don't really understand it's definition? I mean, my nephew, who's 10, uses it constantly.............and has no idea............but he's 10.
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More and more often these days. People don't understand it and just use as an insult to older generations. It's use by many is essentially just calling someone stupid.

The developers here used it totally backwards from it's intended use.

It's suppose to call out policies of thinking in the short term for profitbity instead of looking to the future with sustainability. It's used on peoples who short sightedness hurt the later generations.

Use of "OK Boomer" would be more appropriate when responding to the statement that "building affordable housing makes absolutely zero financial sense".

Instead it was used in the manner of "You're stupid, that would cut into our profits".
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
We have started getting Warren ads in the Seattle market. She is the first outside of the Billionaires that has had TV ads up in our area.
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it’s because she just walked back on her promise to not take super pac money and now some vague organization (led by a guy with ties to the oil industry) is pumping 12m into adds for her:

www.nytimes.com

Elizabeth Warren Gets Giant Lift From Persist PAC (Published 2020)

A super PAC announced late Thursday that it was buying $9 million in television and digital ads. It will be one of the largest ad buys by a super PAC in the 2020 Democratic primary.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
Side note, I made a playlist of my 220 favorite albums from last decade:

open.spotify.com

The Best Music of the 2010's... aka there went your 20s

The Best Music of the 2010's... aka there went your 20s · Playlist · 878 songs · 28 likes
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220) Khruangbin: Con Tudo El Mondo (2018) Funk
219) Janelle Monae: The Electric Lady (2013) R&B, Soul
218) Arca: Acra (2017) Experimental Electronic
217) Rapsody: Eve (2019) Underground Hip-Hop
216) Andy Stott: Faith In Strangers (2014) Ambient Techno
215) Four Tet: New Energy (2017) Experimental Techno
214) Nothing: Tired of Tomorrow (2016) Shoegaze, Alternative Rock
213) Phoebe Bridgers: Stranger in the Alps (2017) Indie Folk
212) Wolf Alice:‭ ‬My Love is Cool (2015) Indie Rock
211) Chemical Brothers- No Geography (2019) House

210) Beach House: Teen Dream (2010)
209) Dilly Dally: Sore (2015) Grunge / Alt-Rock
208) (Sandy) Alex G: House of Sugar (2019) Experimental Folk
207) Earl Sweatshirt: Some Rap Songs (2018)
206) Caroline Rose: Loner (2018) Indie Rock
205) Noname: Room 25 (2018) Hip-Hop
204) Sims: Bad Time Zoo (2011) Underground Hip-Hop
203) Broken Social Scene: Hug of Thunder (2017) Indie Rock
202) Chastity Belt: Time to Go Home (2015) Indie Rock
201) Tyler the Creator: Igor (2019) Experimental R&B

200) Julian Jacklin: Crushing (2019)
199) SZA: Control (2017) R&B
198) Mick Jenkins: The Healing Component (2016) Underground Hip-Hop
197) Girlpool: Powerplant (2017) Indie Rock
196) My Morning Jacket: The Waterfall (2015) Alternative Rock
195) Kayne West:‭ ‬Life of Pablo (2016) Rap
194) P.O.S: Chill, Dummy (2017) Underground Hip-Hop
193) Sleepy Sun: Fever (2010) Neo-Psychedelia, Dessert Rock
192) Mitski: Be the Cowboy (2018) Indie Rock
191) Loma: Loma (2018) Indie Folk, Post-Rock

190) Aesop Rock: The Impossible Kid (2016) Underground Hip-Hop
189) Milo: so the flies don’t come (2015) Underground Hip-Hop
188) Blood Orange: Coastal Grooves (2011) R&B, New-Wave
187) Action Bronson:‭ ‬Mr.‭ ‬Wonderful (2015) Rap
186) Vagabond: Infinite Worlds (2017) Indie Rock
185) H.E.R: I Used to Know Her (2019)
184) Ty Segal: Freedom’s Goblin (2018) Rock & Roll
183) Blood Incantation: Hidden History of the Human Race (2019)
182) Wild Beasts: Present Tense (2014) Indie Rock
181) Foals: What Went Wrong (2015) Alternative Rock

180) Kate Tempest: Let Them Eat Chaos (2016) Experimental Hip-Hop
179) Killer Mike: R.A.P. Music (2012) Underground Hip-Hop
178) Iceage: Beyondless (2018) Post-Punk
177) Glitch Mob: Drink the Sea (2010) EDM
176) Arctic Monkeys: Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino (2018) Art Rock
175) The Antlers: Burst Apart (2011) Indie Rock
174) Kadhja Bonet: Childqueen (2018) R&B
173) Matthew Dear: Beams (2012) Experimental Techno
172) A$AP Rocky: At.Long.Last.A$AP (2015) Rap
171) Billy Woods: Hiding Places (2019) Underground Hip-Hop

170) Danny Brown: uknowwhatimsaying? (2019) Rap
169) Bonobo: Migration (2017) Downtempo Electronic
168) Julia Holter:‭ ‬Have You in My Wilderness (2015) Singer/Songwriter, Orchestral Pop
167) Rudimental: Home (2013) Jungle, Drum N Bass
166) ‬Angel Olsen:‭ ‬Burn Your Fire For No Witness (2014) Indie Singer/Songwriter
165) ‬Soccer Mommy: Clean (2018) Indie Rock
164) Sbtrkt: Sbtrkt (2011) Electronica
163) Rosalia: El Mar Querer (2018) Experimental Latin
162) Happyness:‭ ‬Weird Little Birthday‭ (2014) Indie Rock
161) M83: Hurry Up. We’re Dreaming (2011) Indie Electronica

160) Thom Yorke: Anima (2019) Indie Electronica
159) Black Keys: Brothers (2010) Alternative Rock, Blues
158) Shame: Songs of Praise (2018) Post-Punk
157) The National: High Violet (2010) Indie Rock
156) Michael Kiwanuka:‭ ‬Love and Hate (2016) Singer/Songwriter, Soul
155) John Talobot: Fin (2012) Left-Field House
154) Ty Segal: Sleeper (2014) Neo-Psychedelia
153) Grizzly Bear: Painted Ruins (2017) Indie Rock, Folk
152) Frank Ocean: Channel Orange (2012) R&B
151) Mannequin Pussy: Patience (2019) Indie Rock / Punk

150) Mount Kimbie: Love What Survives (2017) Experimental Electronic
149) Lykke Li: Wounded Rhymes (2011) Indie Rock
148) Aero Flynn:‭ ‬Aero Flynn (2015) Indie Rock
147) LVL Up: Hoodwinked (2014) Indie Rock
146) DJ Koze: Amygdala (2013) Experimental House
145) Noga Erez: Off The Radar (2017) Electronic / Dance
144) Jay Som: Anak Ko (2019) Indie Rock
143) Joey Bada$$: B4.Da.$$ (2014) Hip-Hop
142) Parquet Courts: Wide Awake (2018) Indie Punk
141) A Sunny Day In Glasgow: Sea When Absent (2014) Indie Rock

140) Floating Points:‭ ‬Elaenia‭ (2015) Experimental Techno / Jazz
139) Steve Gunn:‭ ‬Way Out Weather (2014) Indie Folk
138) ‬Donnie Trumpet:‭ ‬The Social Experiment (2015) Experimental Hip-Hop / Jazz
137) Brittany Howard: Jaime (2019) Rock, Soul
136) Vince Staples: Big Fish Theory (2017) Left-Field Rap
135) Warpaint: The Fool (2010) Indie Rock
134) Jim James: Eternally Even (2016) Indie Rock
133) Destroyer: Kaput (2011)
132) Nilfer Yanya- Miss Universe (2019) Indie Rock‬
131) Mac Miller: Swimming (2018) Rap

130) Julia Holter: Loud City Song (2013) Experimental Singer/Songwriter
129) ‬Lana Del Rey:‭ ‬Ultraviolence (2014) Alternative Rock
128) Kurt Vile: Smoke Ring For My Halo (2011) Indie Folk
127) FKA Twigs: LP1 (2014) Glitch Pop
126) King Krule: The OOZ (2017) Indie Rock
125) Floating Points: Crush (2019) Ambient Techno
124) Forest Swords: Endgravings (2013) Electronic
123) Earl Sweatshirt: Doris (2013) Hip-Hop
122) Solange: A Seat at the Table (2016) R&B
121) Girls: Father, Son, Holy Ghost (2011) Indie Rock

120) Robyn: Honey (2018) Pop, Electronic
119) Big Thief: Two Hands (2019) Indie Rock / Folk
118) Brand New: Science Fiction (2017) Alt-Rock
117) Yves Tumor: Safe in the Hands of Love (2018) Experimental Electronic
116) Marika Hackman:‭ ‬We Slept At Last‭ (2015) Indie Folk
115) Hop Along: Get Disowned (2012) Indie Rock
114) Japanese Breakfast: Soft Sounds From Another Planet (2017) Indie Rock
113) The Roots: How I Got Over (2010) Hip-Hop
112) Badbadnotgood:‭ ‬IV‭ (2016) Jazz
111) Caribou: Our Love (2014) Indie Electronic

110) DIIV:‭ ‬Is The Is Are (2016) Shoegaze
109) Ought More Than Any Other Day (2014) Post-Punk
108) Freddie Gibbs: Bandana (2019) Rap
107) Gang Gang Dance: Eye Contact (2011) Experimental Pop
106) Kendrick Lamar: good kid m.A.A.d city (2012) Rap
105) Andy Stott: Luxury Problems (2012) Experimental Techno
104) Michael Kiwanuka: Kiwanuka (2019) Experimental Soul
103) Young Fathers: Cocoa Sugar (2018) Left Field Hip-Hop
102) Glass Animals:‭ ‬Zaba (2014) Indie Electronic
101) Jamila Woods: Legacy! Legacy! (2019) R&B
 
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