Political Discussion

Sonicpharmacist said:
I’m an inpatient hospital pharmacist. Today a doc ordered some ear drops for a patient with an ear infection. Nothing super fancy, just an antibiotic with a steroid. But when I went to enter it in the computer, the patient charge (before insurance) was $978. Almost a grand for a bottle of ear drops. Yes, hospital pharmacies have a markup, but it’s based on the AWP set by the manufacturer and the wholesaler. I sent a text message to the provider and got it switched to an ear drop antibiotic without steroid for $50.

The point is I’ve been a pharmacist for over 10 years, and I’ve never seen prices escalate so dramatically on readily available drugs. Vitamin K (which is typically used to reverse Coumadin) is over $300 for a single tablet. Little 15 mL cups of potassium chloride are close to $100 PER CUP. And I don’t see an end in sight.
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My mom was just diagnosed with colitis and they said a 6 week supply of the medicine is almost $500. It's ridiculous. She's retired and on social security. How are people supposed to afford that?!

Still waiting for this big beautiful health care plan that was going to fix all that. And the candidates who actually have a plan and say how they're going to pay for it get called crazy?
 
dbarila said:
My mom was just diagnosed with colitis and they said a 6 week supply of the medicine is almost $500. It's ridiculous. She's retired and on social security. How are people supposed to afford that?!

Still waiting for this big beautiful health care plan that was going to fix all that. And the candidates who actually have a plan and say how they're going to pay for it get called crazy?
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Yup, because they are going to eliminate price gouging and huge profits for shareholders. That goes against capitalism.

As I mentioned on Sunday, political attack ads against medicare for all have already started airing. Since Sunday I'm seeing them constantly on the air on my local channels now during the news and primetime.
 
Just saw a report on the NBC Nightly News that Trump's Trade War is not brining jobs back to the United States. Instead, it has directly resulted in price increases this disproportionately effect the poor.

And example they gave is clothing. The cheap clothing we would have bought at Walmart or Costco that was made in China. The manufacturers are scrambling to move all manufacturing to Vietnam as fast as they can to avoid the Tariffs. They are not moving jobs back to the United States. Why? It's still far cheaper to to manufacture overseas and they can skirt around the tariffs by moving out of China. Moving to Vietnam will cost a little more in labor than China and the cost of building the new manufacturing facilities will also be passed on to prices.

This effects the poor a lot more than the wealthy because the wealthy are far less likely to buy essential goods from places like Walmart and are already paying more for merchandise likely made in the United States or Europe. It's the poor who are looking for the cheapest goods at Walmart or a Dollar Store who are being hit the hardest. And the least likely to be able to manage the burden of increased costs.
 
sahomerrocks said:
One of my brother's friends worked on his congressional campaign. Seems like a genuinely good guy, but "who?" is the correct response here.
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I only know him from seeing a ton of campaign commercials during the mid terms. He seemed like a good guy but probably doesn't stand a chance. Why would you join right before 20 other candidates are about to go in the National spotlight?
 
dbarila said:
I only know him from seeing a ton of campaign commercials during the mid terms. He seemed like a good guy but probably doesn't stand a chance. Why would you join right before 20 other candidates are about to go in the National spotlight?
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My guess is he's trying to make a name for himself and will try to run against Toomey again
 
Saw a new version of that political ad against medicare for all tonight while watching the news.

This one focused a lot more on "long waits".

It basically said the healthcare system in socialist countries does not work.

If we adapt a socialist healthcare system everyone would have the same plan waiting in the same line. Longer waits. No way to get faster service with a better plan or if your health requires urgent attention.


I can't even with their lives. And I bet the scare tactics will scare the uneducated away from wanting medicare for all.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
Saw a new version of that political ad against medicare for all tonight while watching the news.

This one focused a lot more on "long waits".

It basically said the healthcare system in socialist countries does not work.

If we adapt a socialist healthcare system everyone would have the same plan waiting in the same line. Longer waits. No way to get faster service with a better plan or if your health requires urgent attention.


I can't even with their lives. And I bet the scare tactics will scare the uneducated away from wanting medicare for all.
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I saw one tonight too where they made it seem like losing your private insurance is a bad thing? So I don't have to keep the thing that I pay several hundred dollars a week to have and then several thousand dollars before I can actually use it? Sign me up?
 
I probably won't stick around this thread (I'm no fun in political discussions), but every day on my way to work I drive by the local Republican party office, and they have a big sign filling the windows promoting Trump's 2020 re-election bid, with make America great again and everything.

Here's the thing-

ALL THE TEXT IS IN COMIC SANS.
 
After watching the Democratic Debate last night I have to say I'm not to impressed with most of the candidates.

Not answering questions asked.

Only 2 or 3 candidates raised their hands saying they support Medicare for all. You could tell which ones have obviously have been paid off by lobbyist. Several of these candidates pushed the Medicare for all would result in the lose of 180 Million Americans Private Insurance. They also said Americans love their private insurance.

Also one candidate mentioned that when asked the question "If all patients were services were paid at the Medicare rates what would happen", all hospital administrators answered with "We could close". That candidate made a point of saying that Medicare doesn't pay nearly enough, and the medicare for all bill keeps medicare rates at their current rates which would result in putting hospitals and pharmaceutical companies out of business if everyone had it.

At least one candidate spoke up and said Private Insurance isn't working for most. It's expensive, has all kinds exclusions, deductibles, out of pocket fees before coverage even kicks in.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
After watching the Democratic Debate last night I have to say I'm not to impressed with most of the candidates.

Not answering questions asked.

Only 2 or 3 candidates raised their hands saying they support Medicare for all. You could tell which ones have obviously have been paid off by lobbyist. Several of these candidates pushed the Medicare for all would result in the lose of 180 Million Americans Private Insurance. They also said Americans love their private insurance.

Also one candidate mentioned that when asked the question "If all patients were services were paid at the Medicare rates what would happen", all hospital administrators answered with "We could close". That candidate made a point of saying that Medicare doesn't pay nearly enough, and the medicare for all bill keeps medicare rates at their current rates which would result in putting hospitals and pharmaceutical companies out of business if everyone had it.

At least one candidate spoke up and said Private Insurance isn't working for most. It's expensive, has all kinds exclusions, deductibles, out of pocket fees before coverage even kicks in.
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I love the idea of Medicare for All, but am genuinely concerned that hospitals would shut down.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
After watching the Democratic Debate last night I have to say I'm not to impressed with most of the candidates.

Not answering questions asked.

Only 2 or 3 candidates raised their hands saying they support Medicare for all. You could tell which ones have obviously have been paid off by lobbyist. Several of these candidates pushed the Medicare for all would result in the lose of 180 Million Americans Private Insurance. They also said Americans love their private insurance.

Also one candidate mentioned that when asked the question "If all patients were services were paid at the Medicare rates what would happen", all hospital administrators answered with "We could close". That candidate made a point of saying that Medicare doesn't pay nearly enough, and the medicare for all bill keeps medicare rates at their current rates which would result in putting hospitals and pharmaceutical companies out of business if everyone had it.

At least one candidate spoke up and said Private Insurance isn't working for most. It's expensive, has all kinds exclusions, deductibles, out of pocket fees before coverage even kicks in.
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sounds like I didn't miss much
 
Sonicpharmacist said:
I love the idea of Medicare for All, but am genuinely concerned that hospitals would shut down.
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This is why the healthcare system should not be privatized.

Also, if we went with medicare for all, wouldn't that also mean that all medical bills would be paid out? Also they can cut a lot of overhead with dealing with insurance and coding? Would it not balance out?
 
RenegadeMonster said:
This is why the healthcare system should not be privatized.

Also, if we went with medicare for all, wouldn't that also mean that all medical bills would be paid out? Also they can cut a lot of overhead with dealing with insurance and coding? Would it not balance out?
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I don’t know. What I do know is that I fucking hate insurance companies.
 
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