Vinyl&Kicks86
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do you consider Music On Vinyl a gray market label? they're a legit label.
Pre-Order Thread
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Ingrid Andress - Ladylike vinyl - White vinyl and autographed
Damn vinyl diet. This was the first one that was hard to ignore.
Damn vinyl diet. This was the first one that was hard to ignore.
scotthilk
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So stoked for this one. I got plain black - just feels right with the cover. Good looking out!Punk is dead but at least you can remember the last of the good stuff
Lars Frederiksen S/t in a couple limited colors
Lars Frederiksen & The Bastards - S/T LP
LARS FREDERIKSEN AND THE BASTARDS formed after Lars’ friend and band mate in RANCID, Tim Armstrong suggested writing songs about growing up in Campbell, California. The band was then put together as an outlet to release these songs, as well as covers of Billy Bragg’s “To Have and to Have Not”...shop.piratespressrecords.com
Melt Face Molly Drop
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I know they're considered legit, but to me it always feels like there is a disconnect between the music MOV is pressing and the band itself and whether they are able to distribute through their own means (band site, via the original label, etc). I thought I had read somewhere that MOV operates around some very leniant European licensing laws. They've only been around for a little over a decade. Just something has always felt off to me about them. And their record jackets, I just don't like 'em.
Melt Face Molly Drop
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I’d also say the same about plain and 4 Men With Beards. They’re considered legit but where’s the connection to the band? Just feels disingenuous.
Vinyl&Kicks86
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in general i'm a fan of the label i do agree the jackets could be a lot higher quality but MOV has said many times they work directly with the label that originally released the album.
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Melt Face Molly Drop
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That’s good to know. Then my question would be, why don’t the labels they work with just do the pressing? I could understand if MOV handles European and the original label handles US manufacturing & distro, but the current operation feels weird. Especially when you potentially will have both an MOV and a label pressing somewhere down the line. Chalk it up to my lack of knowledge of the industry I suppose.
Corycm
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MOV is legit, but they don’t always have access to decent masters, let alone the original ones and the masteting work they do/have done is passable but not really noteworthy at all. They also tend to deal much more in the administrative space, working with licensing and labels than the artist themselves.
But comparing the to Plain/4MWB is mean. Their work is definitely better than that.
CrazyDiamond84
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I'm ok with what MOV are doing for the most part as their pressings are usually a much better quality than even the big labels put out. They do much more justice to the music compared to Plain/4mwb so therefore I feel like they are in somewhat support for the artists
Vinyl&Kicks86
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they're labels that specialize in reissuing records.for what ever reason the original label doesn't feel like reissuing something probably cause they probably have many times already.they can let these companies reissue these albums and sit back collect money a win win for the major label.tho i don't completely agree with your opinion i can see where your coming from.
Melt Face Molly Drop
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I heard one of the 4 men with beards ended up shaving, so they made him transfer to plain.
ayoooooo (I’ll see myself out for the remainder of 2020)
Melt Face Molly Drop
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At this point it’s less of an opinion and more of a thought process in hopes of achieving a well established opinion based on facts, so this discussion definitely is helping me shape that.
Melt Face Molly Drop
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One more thought about this and then I'll move on. I think my disconnect here could be attributed to marketing. Plenty of retailers these days have "exclusives" (Newbury, VMP, Zia, Bullmoose), and are marketed as such. Would it be appropriate to label an MOV as a 'pressing' exclusive of sorts? I don't know, I don't know. OK gonna start drinking now.
Vinyl&Kicks86
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i don't know i guess you could if the vinyl was a color variant not available/offered by any other label.they label/market some of their albums mostly color variants as "limited", but to me that sounds kind of lame kind of like VMP "exclusive".
Tortured Diaper Baby Dept
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But does MFSL feel weird? Analogue Productions? I'm not comparing the quality - although I consider MOV quite good (just not the audiophile qual of the former two). But they, too, are not the labels. These companies purchase the rights to press stuff, so it's not like the rights-holders are left w/ their proverbial dicks in their proverbial hands. I'd say these companies provide a service in so much that they may be pressing stuff that a label just doesn't want to sink the cost into.
debianlinux
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Tom Petty's Wildflowers tour was my first proper rock concert experience. Saw the vinyl at the merch booth and actually considered getting it but balked mainly because I did not want to hold onto the vinyl in an outdoor venue in the heat. If I knew then what I later learned I would have taken a loan and bought the booth out and walked that shit back to the truck.
Russ I
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Been listening
Been listening to my download of this [Silver Jews - American Water] and I'm surprised by how much it sounds like it could be a Pavement or Malkmus and the Jicks album. Glad I sprung for the vinyl!Gah! Paid $2 for the instant dowload
mitchwagz
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I’m sure you’re aware but Stephen Malkmus plays on this record too and even wrote a couple songs if I’m not mistaken. Such a fantastic album.
dansomeone
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But then you would have missed the concert. I guess you could have listened from the parking lot.