Pre-Order Thread

Orville Peck EP Show Pony on purple. A little pricy for an EP, but Orville Peck is a gem.


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Yeah. It is a public company address. I was just saying that the poster's profile states that they are in Austin and that's the Vinylmnky address.

If this is a general forum issue, I feel that a comment in here directed toward my post and stating something like, "we need to be careful with these sort of posts because they could be interpreted as doxxing" would be more effective. Not only would I be more receptive to that, but it would be something for the community, at large, to hear, as well as a worthwhile discussion. It could also provide some clarity.

Not addressing it publicly, but simply messaging me like that, feels more like a finger wag and threat telling me that I know what I've done and better not push the line again or I'm gone. But I don't know and -- believe it or not -- actually, intended to be measured and careful in that post. That's why I'm bringing it to comments.

If @Indymisanthrope is saying the post is still there and the address is simply removed, that's fine. Seems fair enough. I still think it's murky territory, but at least it feels like I have more understanding. If I don't know exactly what my violations are, I'm convinced that I'm doomed to cross that line again. And if they are of a much more general scope where calling anyone out for anything is restricted, then the whole soul of this entire "community" and it's ability to self regulate and protect itself is out the window, in my opinion.

The parameters are incredibly loose, until they tighten up. I just won't post the address. I'll assume that's the problem. I'm not trying to doxx people here.
The address you posted was to an apartment complex and your point could’ve been made without it. Either my investigative skills are deteriorating, or they’ve since removed that information from their sites/profiles, but I could not find anything public that was as specific as what you posted. Whether it should be considered ‘doxxing’ is beside the point, it was close enough to private information being made public that it was removed.
 
Orville Peck EP Show Pony on purple. A little pricy for an EP, but Orville Peck is a gem.


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Show Pony https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CZYT12/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7u7dFbPJW7QDP

A little cheaper and free shipping. Per description it should be on Purple wax also.
 
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Signed colored vinyl from Grimeys.






Never heard of her but your post sold me. Pre-ordered.
 
The address you posted was to an apartment complex and your point could’ve been made without it. Either my investigative skills are deteriorating, or they’ve since removed that information from their sites/profiles, but I could not find anything public that was as specific as what you posted. Whether it should be considered ‘doxxing’ is beside the point, it was close enough to private information being made public that it was removed.

They actually did remove it. I would definitely never do some crazy shit like that intentionally. You can literally type in the company name and that address into Google, RIGHT NOW, and you can still see where it was listed on the official Linkedin page before they scraped it. It's not that difficult to do.

Not to knock your "investigative skills," but...


How private is that information? Any "private information being made public" was made public by them.

The assumption that I would and did intentionally try and do something like that must be informing the admin response that I'm receiving, but it's also informing my response to that response. If I accidentally bump someone and didn't realize it, I'll always apologize. If their reaction is to tell me that I did it on purpose, my reaction is to feel like they are tripping. I won't deny the results, but I'm going to speak to my intentions and what I perceive as wrongly inferred motivations. I'm not sure where anyone thinks that I got that information from, because it literally took me all of 30 seconds to come across it. It was listed as their business location on their Linkedin page, but they removed it. It's still listed as such on the link above, so hopefully posting this link to their Lensa page advertising for job openings isn't considered doxxing either. I definitely played no hand in them creating that public account for themselves.

My basic point in all of this is that I feel like someone could have simply told me what the issue was and asked me to remove it, rather than threatening to remove me. Hell, I could have even been told that the address was removed and why, if that's the issue. I don't feel like it's difficult to understand why I would assume their address was public information when they've posted it across the internet, while specifically stating that it is.

If my post is major issue worthy of a ban, it's something that should probably be addressed within this thread in front of everyone else, especially since my post had something like 40 positive reactions, if not more. Apparently, that many other members didn't recognize the issue with it, so they should also be alerted about what part of it is a no go on the forum, before they get their own warnings. I believe that I stated that it was the business address, so I clearly believed that. If I was told that it wasn't, I would have apologized. I still believe that it is and, if it isn't, someone else should be answering for why they are listing a private residence and/or apartment complex as their official corporate headquarters for anyone and everyone to find.

By the way, that address is also listed as their corporate headquarters in this link

along with this link


I've seen it happen numerous times before, where an issue or concern is addressed in a thread in front of everyone, when it happens. It might be to the community's benefit to have addressed this by stating that we should be careful with those sorts of posts, because they could be considered doxxing. I understand that. I would have removed it, or accepted the reasoning. I accept the reasoning now. Striking the post and privately messaging me without specific details, while telling me that's my first and last warning, doesn't help anyone.

I'm not arguing with whatever the admins have determined is permitted or not. I'd actually like a more specific explanation for exactly what these unwritten guidelines are, so that I can determine if I feel like adhering to them or simply leaving. I'm also not trying to push against whatever these rules are, since they are vague and I still don't know what they are. I am, however, responding to clarify my intentions, since what really bothers me is having my intentions misinterpreted and/or misrepresented.

So, here's what I did and my intention behind it, again.

Usually, when we see somebody reposting links to things that have already been posted, we let them know the posts are redundant. In this instance, I noticed they were all just links for the same retailer, and the user behind them had no other history on here beyond that. So, my immediate reaction was that this must be someone working for that company, simply using the forum to spam in here. I either typed their last name and the company into Google, or the company name and "Austin" -- I can't remember which. What popped up was a Linkedin account that listed a number of businesses, since, based on an Austin Chronicle interview/article, the owners mention being venture capitalists that are involved in various businesses. The Linkedin account listed this specific company with that specific address as the business address. Other businesses were listed that they own, and this was the address listed for THIS business address. So, since the poster's profile was listed as Austin, I just posted the company's address to show that it was in Austin.

I did post everything somewhat backwards, as I found it, though. I was just trying to post that connection. You're in Austin, this place is in Austin. That's your name, that's the name of the owner. I guess that I could have just said, "that company is in the same city." I didn't, because it was -- and is -- listed as public information. If I posted VMP's HQ, I wouldn't consider that doxxing, either.

So, I still don't know if the address is the only issue that I'm being threatened over, or if the admins are pissed that I called someone out, in general? If it's the address, someone should have told me that specifically. Plus, I feel like I've just addressed that now. If it's a broader issue, please let me know.

Since the moment this place started, I've gotten personal messages from members either thanking me for speaking up about something that mattered to them, or expressly asking me to be the one to do it. Early on, I had a number of people bringing weird shit to my attention from areas like the PIF thread, when it seemed like someone was exploiting it, or asking if I could vouch for users they believed might be. I can only guess at the reasons why I'm nominated to do these things. Maybe I don't come across like I care whether or not everyone hates me on here. If so, that's fair. What I know is that a lot of those early conversations when the forum was new, involved discussion of a responsibility members felt for all of us to help self-regulate, after the old forum died.

Actually, I'm over it. I don't feel like posting on here anymore. This shit is corny. I'll wait to see if I'm completely blocked. If not, I'll likely Phantom Of The Opera this place, and people can message me, because I definitely have some ongoing things I still need to tie up with certain people.


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This one part is still bothering me. To claim that "Whether it should be considered ‘doxxing’ is beside the point," shows a lack of understanding with my issue, because that is exactly the point. I got an alert stating that my post was expressly removed for "doxxing" accompanied by a DM accusing me of "doxxing" and threatening me with a ban over "doxxing." If I wasn't doxxing, then what's the l supposed problem? I didn't get a message even referencing my inclusion of the address AT ALL, so, for all I know, "doxxing" could simply be referring to the general call out and divulging of who that person is, which is something that feels justified. The claim is either too vague, inaccurate, or both. That's why it's a problem.

Okay. Now, I'm for real done with this.
 
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Essential as essential can be:
Burial - Untrue
I wonder if this pressing will sound better than the standard pressing? I haven’t received the Madvillainy Sire Edition/Concerto 65 edition yellow translucent copy of yet, but people are already saying it sounds better then the standard! 😍

I also have the standard pressing of Untrue, but I’m thinking of getting this one because of the praise the Concerto 65 pressing of Madvillainy is already getting! 💡🤔
 
Essential as essential can be:
Burial - Untrue
Dammit, shipping is 27 euros for me! It’s a pass unfortunately...🥺

The pressing I have does sound good though, and it sounds better in my opinion than the pressing of Madvillainy I have, so I’m not too bummed I’m missing out on this one! 🙂
 
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Thks for posting. I couldn’t get the links to work. Here is the link Nubya Garcia

And for the overseas folks Me Bongo has:

Note the date looks wrong for Mr Bongo.
I splurged a bit on her website for signed copies. Sample tracks sound good. High Hopes for this one.
 
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Thks for posting. I couldn’t get the links to work. Here is the link Nubya Garcia

And for the overseas folks Me Bongo has:

Note the date looks wrong for Mr Bongo.
I splurged a bit on her website for signed copies. Sample tracks sound good. High Hopes for this one.


Also a UK Rough Trade Exclusive.

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That's reasonable to me, too. All I have is this alert

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And a personal DM being threatened with a ban. It wasn't clear enough to me what specific element was forbidden, only that I was "doxxing" and getting the boot if I cross this vague line again. It didn't specifically state the address being the reason, but it's all public knowledge. The posts seemed suspect, so I literally just typed the user's listed last name into Google with the company and it popped up. It was listed as a business address so, If anything, that's free promotion.

If it's the address... okay.

If it's something else/more, I don't know how to make the point that so and so is who they are with that particular connection, without saying who they are and pointing out that connection. They're using their own name, own photo, own city and posting links to their own company. I wasn't trying to divulge 'secret" info. I'm just saying, "c'mon. Feel free to stick around, but be up front, because this feels disrespectful."

If the company address is the issue, I'm not going to push back on removing that. I really wasn't trying to "doxx" anyone.

I'll even apologize if it seems like I'm tripping or overreacting on any level. I'm not trying to unrealistically conflate anything here, but I do currently live in a city with a militarized police force brutally assaulting peaceful citizens, while ID-ing and threatening to arrest them, just for trying to go home to their own apartments. Meanwhile, they follow it up by escorting armed white nationalists in a tirade throughout the exact same area they've roped off and beaten people for getting too close to the day before. Anything I interpret as protecting the rights of people perpetrating suspect behavior to perpetrate it, while chastising or reprimanding those who push back against it for pushing back against it, can be a bit triggering, right now.

Remove the address. Remove the whole post. I just think the priorities might be a bit off. If you have a vinyl company to promote, I feel like this is a fairly welcoming community and platform to promote it, as long as you're respectful about it and it doesn't feel like you're trying to dupe anyone.


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This is an actual community here. Please don't come in with a "hello fellow kids" post about how you love emo, as some weak Trojan horse to play Donnie Brasco with your spam links.

We have people like @Edd from Wax Buyers Club on here, and @Plaid Room / Colemine, but they are very transparent about who they are. If you guys are dropping some sort of exclusive, that's cool; let us know. That Story Of The Ghost repress is everywhere. There's even a section specifically for vinyl clubs on here. This just isn't the way to go about it.

The problem was the address. Please look back, because that is exactly what I did. I removed the address. I am new at moderating and did the wrong thing the first time. I undeleted the message and removed the address.

Edit: Any time I see an address posted here, I google map it and it looked like an apartment complex. That was a red flag to me. and why I deleted it.
 
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I wonder if this pressing will sound better than the standard pressing? I haven’t received the Madvillainy Sire Edition/Concerto 65 edition yellow translucent copy of yet, but people are already saying it sounds better then the standard! 😍

I also have the standard pressing of Untrue, but I’m thinking of getting this one because of the praise the Concerto 65 pressing of Madvillainy is already getting! 💡🤔

I've been really happy with the stuff I've picked up from Platomania.nl the pressing on Tribe, Lauryn Hill, Madvillain were all very good. I've gone ahead and picked up Franz Ferdinand and Burial now.
 
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