Vinyl Me Please Rap & Hip Hop
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NathanRicaud
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I don’t care. I’m going to just be savage.
This is my observation.
To me, Believer101’s music taste is very lower-class Australian-like, but he just knows much more. He won’t ever be into Milo, Shabazz Palaces, Quelle Chris or even Bahamadia or Smif-N-Wessun. He’s more the Snoop Dogg, Lil’ Kim, NaS, Hopsin, Tyga kind that also does enjoy other great rappers like JPEGMAFIA and Danny Brown.
But let me tell you one thing. He’s not interested in A Tribe Called Quest, Freestyle Fellowship, US3, Digable Planets etc. he isn’t a jazz rap person. He wouldn’t even like D’Angelo or Erykah Badu etc. That’s why this guy doesn’t care about The Roots because they are moreso in that category.
I couldn’t care what Believer101 says in this debate. His contribution is nothing in this debate.
Believer101
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NathanRicaud
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Omg, I feel so mean.....but I can’t help that I’m so competitive and always want to win! 
I am listening to your points @Clint Howard but I honestly genuinely think The Roots are much more popular than Method Man. And I think better known actually. The Roots became really big with Things Fall Apart and Questlove is The Roots’ most popular member.
So much people like that neo-soul/jazz. Look at @Selaws. He’s the perfect example. He loves The Roots. Imagine how many jazz/neo-soul people would love The Roots but they wouldn’t care/forgot about Method Man.
I am listening to your points @Clint Howard but I honestly genuinely think The Roots are much more popular than Method Man. And I think better known actually. The Roots became really big with Things Fall Apart and Questlove is The Roots’ most popular member.
So much people like that neo-soul/jazz. Look at @Selaws. He’s the perfect example. He loves The Roots. Imagine how many jazz/neo-soul people would love The Roots but they wouldn’t care/forgot about Method Man.
Believer101
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Omg, I feel so mean.....but I can’t help that I’m so competitive and always want to win!
I am listening to your points @Clint Howard bit I honestly genuinely think The Roots are much more popular than Method Man. And I think better known actually. The Roots became really big with Things Fall Apart and Questlove is The Roots’ most popular member.
So much people like that neo-soul/jazz. Look at @Selaws. He’s the perfect example. He loves The Roots. Imagine how many jazz/neo-soul people would love The Roots but they wouldn’t care/forgot about Method Man.
Dunno why your last point to be right is me
Most of what clint said wasnt using me as his evidence lol but okay
zombie.modernist
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One thing's for sure, Wu albums are going to get even more high profile after this Hulu show drops in two months. Better grab all those early albums before they spike in price and demand like the Queen and Elton John used records have recently.
Personally not doing so hot on this front... I saw an OG copy of Tical for 40€ in Amsterdam, but it was closer to VG with a lot of surface scuffs. Maybe one day!
Personally not doing so hot on this front... I saw an OG copy of Tical for 40€ in Amsterdam, but it was closer to VG with a lot of surface scuffs. Maybe one day!
Believer101
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Im so keen for that to drop. Its not far off I dont think! I hope they do it justice.
zombie.modernist
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Same! I think a TV miniseries is a better format than a biopic so they don't have to resort to lazy retellings and compressed narratives like many biopics. For every Walk the Line and Straight Outta Compton there seem to be twenty bad music films haha. I think a lot of historically rooted stuff is going to move to TV after the critical success of stuff like When They See Us or just the massive rating for shows like The Crown or American Crime Story. At this point I wish the rock biopic resurgence would pivot to TV as well.
Believer101
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Yeh its a better choice.
Give them far more runtime to work with for sure.
Just have to hope the writing and cinematography is on point.
DJBRsez
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Revisionist history being written by those too young to have experienced it firsthand, from halfway across the world to boot. (A preemptive "fuck you too" if the second part of that sentence somehow offends any of you, btw; the internet was nowhere near as pervasive as it is now and any perception of popularity was much more regional)
Why you take this loudass kid so seriously Clint lol
Why is Tariq so consistently [and deservedly] brought up as the most underrated rapper ever? Because as great as the Roots have always been, they were never on a Wu (or Meth) like level! I'd love to see Questlove laugh at this argument and write a good ol' okayplayer diatribe proving Clint right so the loud kid could admit his wrongs and just defer to those with clearly superior knowledge on topics he has no business arguing about in the first place. Then throwing his Pikachu buddy under the bus on top if it while failing to prove anything close to a point. "Savage" indeed
Edit: was the following said with sincerity? Genuine question.
Why you take this loudass kid so seriously Clint lol
Why is Tariq so consistently [and deservedly] brought up as the most underrated rapper ever? Because as great as the Roots have always been, they were never on a Wu (or Meth) like level! I'd love to see Questlove laugh at this argument and write a good ol' okayplayer diatribe proving Clint right so the loud kid could admit his wrongs and just defer to those with clearly superior knowledge on topics he has no business arguing about in the first place. Then throwing his Pikachu buddy under the bus on top if it while failing to prove anything close to a point. "Savage" indeed
Edit: was the following said with sincerity? Genuine question.
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Jonathan Y
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So about this ROTM!?!? Seems like we can't really justify anything as modern classic aside from the one it specifically can't be (MBDTF)
This is getting interesting and still 3 weeks to go!!!
ANY CHANCE, maybe it is Big Boi and Storf said almost as big as Outkast being a cheeky lil bastard cuz it's half of outkast?
If so, stoked I picked up Boomiverse off the PIF thread!
This is getting interesting and still 3 weeks to go!!!
ANY CHANCE, maybe it is Big Boi and Storf said almost as big as Outkast being a cheeky lil bastard cuz it's half of outkast?If so, stoked I picked up Boomiverse off the PIF thread!
tonythegamer
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It's sad, because I feel like the only album I'd keep is MBDTF
supahypeag
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Drake Thank Me Later? Debut album, it would appeal to the casual hip-hop fans that the RHH sub caters to as well as marketing to the masses, never had an official vinyl release according to discogs?
zombie.modernist
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Impossible to find any consensus as "modern classic" is an oxymoron. Sure something can be relevant and influential on the current scene but it's not really a "classic" till it's baked into the DNA of the genre. I think people are drifting to MBDTF as a "classic" because now at almost a decade it is firmly in the past, yet still quite good.
I would like a nicer vinyl copy of this as the Sterling / URP copy sucks, but the CD works just fine. I'd like to find one of the GZ pressed / mastered copies out there, as I preferred their take on Late Registration to the earlier pressings but all I see is the URP / TML reissue for MBDTF.
I would like a nicer vinyl copy of this as the Sterling / URP copy sucks, but the CD works just fine. I'd like to find one of the GZ pressed / mastered copies out there, as I preferred their take on Late Registration to the earlier pressings but all I see is the URP / TML reissue for MBDTF.
tonythegamer
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not on def jam
supahypeag
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Snap, forgot about that clue. Apologies!
Jonathan Y
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^you right lol I should have just stayed on the sidelines for this one
I'll help to change the topic too: "it was written" repress went up on get on down this morning
I got that email too
Believer101
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Keep low expectations and maybe I might be surprised.
To be totally fair, I don’t think MBDTF will ever sound good. Everything is so overblown and dense that it would be near impossible to have a nice, dynamic pressing. I also must have gotten a good vinyl copy because mine sounds quite good all things considered. I also haven’t really listened to it on vinyl in years... I should remedy that.