tvham
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I haven't been able to read deadwax in like 10 years
(I don't think it says that but it's just a giant jumble to me)
Definitive Audiophile pressings
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(I don't think it says that but it's just a giant jumble to me)
I believe that's the Optimal though, according to cogs it does say that on the label. My Optimal copy also shows that. But look, wait until I listen tomorrow before everyone PIFs their copies, maybe I'm just totally wrong!
TrainFan73
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tvham
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I'm going to spin it tomorrow and see what my ears think.
jamieanderson1968
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Always lead off with the graph. That hooks them.
zdkaiser
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Whenever I am messing with something audio or computer related, e.g., swapping cartridges, I am referred to as "Tinker Tron 5000" and then my wife proceeds to make random robot/dial-up modem noises as I work (or as she puts it "tinker"). I will say I used to be Tinker Tron 3000, but apparently I got an upgrade over the years. Guess I'm more powerful now.
keylime_5
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Mine is R1 on the sleeve and labels, but the deadwax is the new pressing they did at Optimal, not the same deadwax as the 2014 Optimal: Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II
and it sounds great
and it sounds great
keylime_5
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One of the funs things about vinyl — you can have the same mastering but different stampers, different pressing plants and get a whole different sound.
Hemotep
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I just don't want these aholes to be right: Better Records: Hot Stamper LPs — 100% Guaranteed Great Sound.
Russ I
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Haha! Yeah, I've been thinking that's exactly where this line of discourse is headed.
Hello fellow psychopaths I have returned to regale you with my findings. Here is my in depth analysis of Pallas v Optimal Led Zep2Gate 2022.
Yeah they're different. (Allegedly)
Optimal does have further boosted highs especially noticeable in the high hats. (Allegedly).The high hats are kinda the star of the show on that pressing, in front of everything else. It's why I was finding both the box set and the Optimal tinny on my system. However that's just MY SYSTEM... the (allegedly) added high end might benefit a lot of systems too that aren't already a little bright. So if it sounds good on your system, then fuck it, it sounds good! I thought I noticed a few other little differences in some of the stereo panning/staging but I'm not so sure about that one. I have no idea why they'd be different but the runouts are different and someone had mentioned Pallas polishing stampers so perhaps the different stampers just account for it. I just find the Pallas to be a smoother less harsh sound overall.
So here we are. I... I guess I'm done now... What a wild ride this past.... 4 days have been.
-looks at 3 different Zep II pressings currently strewn across dining room table
Well, uh... thank God that's over with... now I can get back to.... real.... life... things.... hmph...
-slowly rising panic
HEY WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE MONO MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR ONLY FIVE PRESSINGS FROM GERMANY IN THE MID 70S ARE CORRECT MONO, YOU DON'T SAY? THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE VENTURE, TO THE DISCOGS!!
Yeah they're different. (Allegedly)
Optimal does have further boosted highs especially noticeable in the high hats. (Allegedly).The high hats are kinda the star of the show on that pressing, in front of everything else. It's why I was finding both the box set and the Optimal tinny on my system. However that's just MY SYSTEM... the (allegedly) added high end might benefit a lot of systems too that aren't already a little bright. So if it sounds good on your system, then fuck it, it sounds good! I thought I noticed a few other little differences in some of the stereo panning/staging but I'm not so sure about that one. I have no idea why they'd be different but the runouts are different and someone had mentioned Pallas polishing stampers so perhaps the different stampers just account for it. I just find the Pallas to be a smoother less harsh sound overall.
So here we are. I... I guess I'm done now... What a wild ride this past.... 4 days have been.
-looks at 3 different Zep II pressings currently strewn across dining room table
Well, uh... thank God that's over with... now I can get back to.... real.... life... things.... hmph...
-slowly rising panic
HEY WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE MONO MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR ONLY FIVE PRESSINGS FROM GERMANY IN THE MID 70S ARE CORRECT MONO, YOU DON'T SAY? THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE VENTURE, TO THE DISCOGS!!
Isn’t that the stereo? All the monos be mono? That was the standard commercial mix in the 60s…
zdkaiser
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Would you mind rewriting your review using the hot stamper language we have all grown to love and understand?
Is the Pallas pressing "nearly white hot", "white hot", or "super white hot". Or dare I ask, are we talking "liquid magma red hot?" Can it melt stone?
Joking aside, glad you found your preferred copy!
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MORE THINGS TO RESEARCH OH NO LOOKS LIKE THAT LAWN MOWING AND TAX FILE REAL LIFE THINGS WILL HAVE TO WAIT OH DEAR
You need a robot lawn mower. Problem solved. Maybe a robot accountant too?
Jbraswell
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Dependent upon your credit card limit, $2K gets you a NEARLY white hot stamper pressed by the best at URP.
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II - Nearly White Hot Stamper
These Nearly White Hot Stamper pressings have top-quality sound that's often surprisingly close to our White Hots, but they sell at substantial discounts to our Shootout Winners, making them a relative bargain in the world of Hot Stampers ("relative" being relative considering the prices we...
better-records.com
You're kidding... It's United?Dependent upon your credit card limit, $2K gets you a NEARLY white hot stamper pressed by the best at URP.
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II - Nearly White Hot Stamper
These Nearly White Hot Stamper pressings have top-quality sound that's often surprisingly close to our White Hots, but they sell at substantial discounts to our Shootout Winners, making them a relative bargain in the world of Hot Stampers ("relative" being relative considering the prices we...
But they use bold word and capitalisation to emphasise words like Masterpiece and Massive so it must be truuuuuue….
Jbraswell
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I doubt it but people ordering from there wouldn't even know who United is.
Russ I
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I like this justification for the fact it's a bit of a noisy pressing ("the surfaces are mostly audible between tracks and in the quietest sections"). Um, isn't that how VG+ (at best) would be described? They rate it Mint Minus Minus.Dependent upon your credit card limit, $2K gets you a NEARLY white hot stamper pressed by the best at URP.
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II - Nearly White Hot Stamper
These Nearly White Hot Stamper pressings have top-quality sound that's often surprisingly close to our White Hots, but they sell at substantial discounts to our Shootout Winners, making them a relative bargain in the world of Hot Stampers ("relative" being relative considering the prices we...
"If you want to make the trade-off between bad sound and quiet surfaces with whatever Heavy Vinyl pressing might be available, well, that's certainly your prerogative, but we can't imagine losing what's good about this music -- the size, the energy, the presence, the clarity, the weight -- just to hear it with less background noise."