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TenderLovingKiller®
TenderLovingKiller®
I disagree. I don’t like how the Champions League is structured. Setting up a league that locks in (eventually 20 club) lets me know who to focus on and when the NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL I feel would be the equivalent of what the Super league would aspire to be and I much prefer those structures to that of the way Euro Soccer is currently structured.
wokeupnew
wokeupnew
You’re the target audience for the super league then. But these local leagues would die because the games become pointless. Euro soccer is structured the way it is because each country has its own league.
wokeupnew
wokeupnew
Imagine the top 20 NCAA football programs breaking off from their conferences and only letting those 20 teams play for the national title. It removes any other Cinderella team from competing. It would be come predictable boring as shit football only serving corporate overlords
wokeupnew
wokeupnew
And as we’ve seen recently these great 12 or 20 super league teams are not always the best teams in their leagues. 4 out of the 6 English teams would be out of the Champions League next season. The leagues change constantly. Teams go through bad spells and relegations. Why should these elite clubs leave just because they don’t want anyone else to win titles.
TenderLovingKiller®
TenderLovingKiller®
Meh, I would rather watch Alabama vs Ohio State play 3 times a season than Alabama play Arkansas State once. Same goes with Soccer give me more event type games where the players in the world go head to head instead of watching Man City have to play Norwich City or Sheffield. Stories like Leicester City from a few years ago are nice stories but hardly ever happen.
wokeupnew
wokeupnew
They’ll never happen. That’s the problem. There will never be another underdog story like that and that’s tragic. If you have too much cake you get sick of it. Watching powerhouses play each other so often will kill the sport.
TenderLovingKiller®
TenderLovingKiller®
Since the premier leagues inception the 5 of the 6 teams jumping ship (excluding Tottenham) have the overwhelming majority of Premier league titles. The lesser teams can still play in their respective countries league. The teams with all the money and power will remain the same they will just have to play each other much more often.
jaycee
jaycee
While I personally don't care about watching those 20 teams play each other I think the biggest issue here is that the rich get richer. Problematic isn't a fair enough adjective for FIFA but this will likely limit the development of soccer programs in poorer countries. These teams are great more-so because of money than great mgmt. or strategy... so that continues more unabated
wokeupnew
wokeupnew
These are clubs are the “top clubs” right now. But not historically. Football did not begin with the inception of the Premier League. Why should they just leave their league and let the leagues die. It’s a greedy power grab, plain and simple. It’s selfish and destroys the history of these leagues.
Twentytwo
Twentytwo
I don’t know much about the super league but I just wanted to brag on this goal from my Nashville SC boys the other day.

Joe Mac
Joe Mac
Please don’t comment on things you don’t understand. It’s an anti competitive billionaires cabal.
Joe Mac
Joe Mac
For context European football rewards achievement and punishes under achievement. Small provincial teams can dream of success and large teams can fail. Manchester United were relegated 6 years after being the first English team to win the European Cup. Nottingham Forest, a medium sized provincial club currently in the second tier have won two European Cups, more than all of these “big six” bar United and Liverpool,
Joe Mac
Joe Mac
It makes succeeding imperitive and prevents dead rubbers. Also Untied v Barcelona is glamorous precisly because it doesn’t happen every year, it’s a special occasion. Closed leagues that reward being shit may work in America but you can keep them, we demand meritocracy. Keep your nose out of our business and we’ll keep our opinions mocking you rewarding being shit to ourselves too.
bettim84
bettim84
Super League concept only makes sense from an American perspective. It doesn’t make sense for the local fans of the actual clubs involved. Frankly, it’s disgusting.
wokeupnew
wokeupnew
I mean, that’s what the MLS is for. Not a bad league and they’re up front about their intentions. Closed system, easy to follow, etc. Don’t go changing something that’s been around for so longer than 100 years
mdmost
mdmost
No offense to the OP but the casual fan is exactly who this Super League is for. The average fan of an EPL team in England is not a casual fan. They live and die with their clubs. All this new league does is consolidate power and money with the big name clubs. It destroys tradition and a meritocracy for an NFL system that simply rewards you for being a big name club. It will destroy the English football system.
Joe Mac
Joe Mac
It’s also an american solution to an American problem. How do you create a draft in a sport where clubs always created their own? Are the British/European Universities even remotely capable of implimenting it? Do we want to create the culture that surrounds American university athletes in Europe? Why would a Spaniard want to he drafted to Northern England or a Londoner to Atletico?
TenderLovingKiller®
TenderLovingKiller®
@mdmost no offense taken. Yeah, as I said I am not a big fan of soccer currently and I understand most people that enjoy the sport in it’s current state wouldn’t be on board for a gigantic change.
TenderLovingKiller®
TenderLovingKiller®
I can relate when I comes to baseball when The MLB talks of a huge changes to the rules to make the game more appealing to non-baseball fans. While I am not a fan of a lot of the proposed changes I get the thinking behind them.
mdmost
mdmost
An American example is saying the past 11 Super Bowl winners and the Cowboys all get together to have their own separate NFL playoff that takes place during the NFL season and none of them can be taken out of that new playoff and have their own TV deal that gives them even more money than teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, and Buffalo who have less access to free agents. How do the those teams fare?
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