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ngower said:
This is gonna sound dumb, but go with me....

There's a corner of my living room that is a cable rat nest (cables for FR/SR in HT system and L/R in hifi). I can just loop them up and put some velcro cable ties but they'll still look kinda ugly. Any tips for "hiding" cables?
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Adding on to the ideas above, this is simple and affordable, not beautiful but better than a rats nest or just loops of wire.

Cable Management Organizer
 
ZiggsMBK said:
I am going to assume that you have premade speaker cables then? Something that you can't just trim to the right length and then put your banana plugs or spades back onto?


Beats the hell out of me. IMHO, Delrin and metal are superior to acrylic. I do love the huge sound of a good high-mass turntable, though, so personal bias is in full effect here.
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I think there are different principles in play here. My understanding is that acrylic has similar resonance properties as vinyl itself, so coupling to an acrylic platter would produce less bad resonance during playback. I mean there are tables out there with huge chunks of acrylic as platters too so you can have both.

I kind of thought the whole point of Delrin was it was the best of both worlds - low friction, high density, low resonance, mass can be built up with a much thinner platter.
 
kvetcha said:
Acrylic, as far as I'm aware, gives you more mass than aluminum. Delrin gives you that plus it's even "deader" acoustically.
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I think a lot of it depends on the application. The thin and lightweight cast aluminium platters the likes of project and fluance use on their lower end tables for sure. Plus the fact you don’t need a mat and the resonance matching. When you go high end and have a platter cut from a single billet of aluminium it’s a different ball game all together.
 
Joe Mac said:
I think a lot of it depends on the application. The thin and lightweight cast aluminium platters the likes of project and fluance use on their lower end tables for sure. Plus the fact you don’t need a mat and the resonance matching. When you go high end and have a platter cut from a single billet of aluminium it’s a different ball game all together.
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But it’s still just the mass at that point overcoming the inherent resonance issues?
 
Joe Mac said:
I think a lot of it depends on the application. The thin and lightweight cast aluminium platters the likes of project and fluance use on their lower end tables for sure. Plus the fact you don’t need a mat and the resonance matching. When you go high end and have a platter cut from a single billet of aluminium it’s a different ball game all together.
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Agreed, though aluminum is still going to ring a lot more than acrylic, so will require some sort of damping (as you mentioned).

Big fan of Delrin, though.
 
Nee Lewman said:
I think there are different principles in play here. My understanding is that acrylic has similar resonance properties as vinyl itself, so coupling to an acrylic platter would produce less bad resonance during playback. I mean there are tables out there with huge chunks of acrylic as platters too so you can have both.

I kind of thought the whole point of Delrin was it was the best of both worlds - low friction, high density, low resonance, mass can be built up with a much thinner platter.
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It's very possible acrylic has all those benefits. I'd have to brush up on my research. More than likely, this is just me. I haven't heard a table with an acrylic platter that I have enjoyed. I recall them being dull and small-sounding. Delrin, I have owned and enjoyed, and I really like a hefty metal platter the most. Shrugs. You all are probably right that the 3-pound platter on the Fluance probably doesn't have enough weight to give it that high-mass turntable sound. At least, if Fluance is dropping the acrylic, they are substituting a solid metal platter. Nothing sounds worse than those folded, sheet-metal, hollow monstrosities.
 
kvetcha said:
Agreed, though aluminum is still going to ring a lot more than acrylic, so will require some sort of damping (as you mentioned).

Big fan of Delrin, though.
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I like Delrin, I have had a few, including currently on my Blackbird and a Groovetracer on an old Rega. Nice, smooth, calm and quiet. Though, not always perfect. Nothing is.

As for aluminum, my old AR The Turntable I adding carefully cut and applied Dynamat patches to the underside, which helped a lot, more than the platter mat.

More precise and perhaps scientific solutions are also used by some manufacturers. Transrotor has precise concentric rings in the designs when they machine their platters.

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SnowmaNick said:
I like Delrin, I have had a few, including currently on my Blackbird and a Groovetracer on an old Rega. Nice, smooth, calm and quiet. Though, not always perfect. Nothing is.

As for aluminum, my old AR The Turntable I adding carefully cut and applied Dynamat patches to the underside, which helped a lot, more than the platter mat.

More precise and perhaps scientific solutions are also used by some manufacturers. Transrotor has precise concentric rings in the designs when they machine their platters.

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Watch the platter spin…

…Good…

…you are feeling sleepy, very sleepy…
 
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