Pre-Order Thread

zarile9 said:
Love Wilco, but at times, it seems they just throw items out there with outrageous prices just to have a laugh at all those with the disposable income that feel the need to have items with the name Wilco attached to them. As a long-time fan, I do find it opportunist, although I certainly don’t knock those that purchase the stuff. To me it takes the luster off their music, their art form, and makes me see them more as just another money generator. A Random Money Generator...
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I read the album announcement when I was randomly listening to Summerteeth tonight. When I saw the $500 price tag and read Jeff's intro mentioning the existential dread that we seem to have to deal with on a daily basis, I honestly thought it would include some sort of donation to a cause that the band found worthy. Nope. For $500, you get a book that sounds like a fancier version of the "Elmo goes to the potty" book that my kids read, where you can open the panels and spin the wheels and find the toilet paper and make the sink run. Its cynical and tone-deaf. I have such an emotional history with this band, they've essentially been the soundtrack to my relationship with my wife for the last 15 years -- it feels silly, but I'm so disappointed in them for doing this and in myself for letting them mean that much to me. Which sucks.
 
I don't know if I should put this here but for anyone with an Andrew W.K. itch, he's releasing new vinyl pressings of his albums The Wolf and I Get Wet tomorrow.




The Wolf I believe has never been pressed to vinyl before, whereas I Get Wet has, but it's somewhat pricey on Discogs. The lowest I've seen I Get Wet is around $65ish.
 
tonythegamer said:
I don't know if I should put this here but for anyone with an Andrew W.K. itch, he's releasing new vinyl pressings of his albums The Wolf and I Get Wet tomorrow.




The Wolf I believe has never been pressed to vinyl before, whereas I Get Wet has, but it's somewhat pricey on Discogs. The lowest I've seen I Get Wet is around $65ish.
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Anyone who doesn't know, I Get Wet is an absolute classic of an album, and if you're at all interested in conspiracy theories then just give a google to the names Andrew WK and Steev Mike side by side and you'll be down a rabbit hole so deep your family won't see you for a month! Picked up the anniversary edition of I Get Wet and didn't expect it to go OOS honestly, its at $100 on discogs now!! Grab I Get Wet if you do not have it, do not sleep. The Wolf is a little harder to get into but i'll definitely be grabbing it.
 
tonythegamer said:
I don't know if I should put this here but for anyone with an Andrew W.K. itch, he's releasing new vinyl pressings of his albums The Wolf and I Get Wet tomorrow.




The Wolf I believe has never been pressed to vinyl before, whereas I Get Wet has, but it's somewhat pricey on Discogs. The lowest I've seen I Get Wet is around $65ish.
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Yep looks like enjoy the ride records will be doing these
 
zarile9 said:
Love Wilco, but at times, it seems they just throw items out there with outrageous prices just to have a laugh at all those with the disposable income that feel the need to have items with the name Wilco attached to them. As a long-time fan, I do find it opportunist, although I certainly don’t knock those that purchase the stuff. To me it takes the luster off their music, their art form, and makes me see them more as just another money generator. A Random Money Generator...
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My two cents on the Wilco controversy: this would be a bigger deal if fans had to pay $500 to have a copy of the record (in other words, if the $500 package was the only one available, and there were no cheaper options to buy the vinyl). Think VMP's Anthology, which required people to dish out big money if they wanted a reissue of certain long out-of-print Blue Note records. Or the Frank Ocean records. That is price gouging.

I feel that what Wilco is doing is different. Fans who want to buy the music can still do so at a reasonable price. Fans who want a $500 luxury item can pay $500 for it. Musicians have to make money to survive and save for retirement, too. If they think enough people will pay an absurd price for a weird book or a freaking axe, more power to them.
 
bettim84 said:
My two cents on the Wilco controversy: this would be a bigger deal if fans had to pay $500 to have a copy of the record (in other words, if the $500 package was the only one available, and there were no cheaper options to buy the vinyl). Think VMP's Anthology, which required people to dish out big money if they wanted a reissue of certain long out-of-print Blue Note records. Or the Frank Ocean records. That is price gouging.

I feel that what Wilco is doing is different. Fans who want to buy the music can still do so at a reasonable price. Fans who want a $500 luxury item can pay $500 for it. Musicians have to make money to survive and save for retirement, too. If they think enough people will pay an absurd price for a weird book or a freaking axe, more power to them.
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I agree with this - frankly I'm surprised at how many people seem to be taking the marketing of something they don't want for a price they think is too high as some kind of personal affront.
 
LG&M said:
I read the album announcement when I was randomly listening to Summerteeth tonight. When I saw the $500 price tag and read Jeff's intro mentioning the existential dread that we seem to have to deal with on a daily basis, I honestly thought it would include some sort of donation to a cause that the band found worthy. Nope. For $500, you get a book that sounds like a fancier version of the "Elmo goes to the potty" book that my kids read, where you can open the panels and spin the wheels and find the toilet paper and make the sink run. Its cynical and tone-deaf. I have such an emotional history with this band, they've essentially been the soundtrack to my relationship with my wife for the last 15 years -- it feels silly, but I'm so disappointed in them for doing this and in myself for letting them mean that much to me. Which sucks.
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Space Wanderer said:
I agree with this - frankly I'm surprised at how many people seem to be taking the marketing of something they don't want for a price they think is too high as some kind of personal affront.
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I think @LG&M's post gets to the heart of all the pearl clutching. I would expect a poll of music fans across the entire spectrum to reveal, if you are a Fan of Wilco you are a FAN. OF. WILCO. Otherwise, when riding around on a summer Saturday with the top down or BBQing in the backyard , I suspect Wilco is not the go to background music for most (It is for me....but I'll admit I'm the guy, who in polite company, my wife apologetically refers to as a music snob).

The other piece feeding the OMG reaction is that, generally and particularly among fans, Wilco has a reputation of being all around good guys. My buddy, who is a music writer and has interviewed JT & the Band a couple of times, pre-ordered Ode To Joy and bought the pencil for $1. He got a refund notice from Wilcoworld.net because the pencil comes free with the pre-order from the site. They could have kept the dollar and shipped him two pencils, instead they refunded the dollar. My buddy's reaction was, and I'm quoting here: "They're such stand up guys."

If it were a math problem it would look like this: (The personal attachment engendered by the art Wilco produces ) + (Wilco's Reputation) + ($500 22-page Art Book Bundle Pre-Order) = WTF!

As support for the above, I'll point out I don't recall Tsk-Tsking when Guns & Roses foisted this upon the world: https://gnrmerch.com/products/appetite-for-destruction-locked-n-loaded-box-set




Edit: In case its not obvious by now, I AM and American Aquarium Drinker.
Also, @LG&M, Summerteeth RULES!
 
LG&M said:
I read the album announcement when I was randomly listening to Summerteeth tonight. When I saw the $500 price tag and read Jeff's intro mentioning the existential dread that we seem to have to deal with on a daily basis, I honestly thought it would include some sort of donation to a cause that the band found worthy. Nope. For $500, you get a book that sounds like a fancier version of the "Elmo goes to the potty" book that my kids read, where you can open the panels and spin the wheels and find the toilet paper and make the sink run. Its cynical and tone-deaf. I have such an emotional history with this band, they've essentially been the soundtrack to my relationship with my wife for the last 15 years -- it feels silly, but I'm so disappointed in them for doing this and in myself for letting them mean that much to me. Which sucks.
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Curious question...why are you and others bothered by this? I get it if this was the only vinyl pressing of it...I'd be pissed too. But I'm not entirely sure why people are so up in arms about this one? I'm a huge Wilco fan. I'm looking forward to the new album and to see them on tour in the fall. I'm indifferent about the $500 version. If they sell it and it helps them financially, so be it. I'm sure the book cost a pretty penny to produce (although not $500 worth). The guy who designed the book is pretty awesome. I personally don't think it's screwing over their fans or anything but to each his/her own!
 
The Commish said:
I think @LG&M's post gets to the heart of all the pearl clutching. I would expect a poll of music fans across the entire spectrum to reveal, if you are a Fan of Wilco you are a FAN. OF. WILCO. Otherwise, when riding around on a summer Saturday with the top down or BBQing in the backyard , is suspect Wilco is not the go to background music for most (It is for me....but I'll admit I'm the guy, who in polite company, my wife apologetically refers to as a music snob).

The other piece feeding the OMG reaction is that, generally and particularly among fans, Wilco has a reputation of being all around good guys. My buddy, who is a music writer and has interviewed JT & the Band a couple of times, pre-ordered Ode To Joy and bought the pencil for $1. He got a refund notice from Wilcoworld.net because the pencil comes free with the pre-order from the site. They could have kept the dollar and shipped him two pencils, instead they refunded the dollar. My buddy's reaction was, and I'm quoting here: "They're such stand up guys."

If it were a math problem it would look like this: (The personal attachment engendered by the art Wilco produces ) + (Wilco's Reputation) + ($500 22-page Art Book Bundle Pre-Order) = WTF!

As support for the above, I'll point out I don't recall Tsk-Tsking when Guns & Roses foisted this upon the world: https://gnrmerch.com/products/appetite-for-destruction-locked-n-loaded-box-set




Edit: In case its not obvious by now, I AM and American Aquarium Drinker.
Also, @LG&M, Summerteeth RULES!
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I could see people being pissed if it was the only vinyl variant. But it certainly isn't going to ruin Wilco for me that they chose to sell this. Maybe I'm in the minority though on it.
 
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Compilation of the year. It wasn’t really a movement, barely even a moment, but the Daisy Age was an ethos that permeated pop, R&B and hip hop at the turn of the 90s. Playfulness and good humour were central to De La Soul’s 1989 debut album, 3 Feet High And Rising, which would go on to cast a...
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Space Wanderer said:
I agree with this - frankly I'm surprised at how many people seem to be taking the marketing of something they don't want for a price they think is too high as some kind of personal affront.
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I know you are probably referring to some other people. I wouldn't say I'm taking this as a personal affront. More a smirk and a disappointed head shake for both the people marketing it and the people who will buy it. I'm also viewing this in the context of previous Wilco box/axe/flag chicanery.
 
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