brownsugah
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I am feeling Bandana more than Piñata tbh (off first listen). I was contemplating getting the bundle when it was first available, but at that point I hadn’t listened to Bandana in order to decide.
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Clint Howard
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I said it in the other hip-hop thread but the best of them all was the Alex Goose remix of Pinata.
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Honest VMP-related question: do vinyl warps decrease the grading value to you super collectors even if the sound is not overtly affected?
Yes they aren’t good for your stylus, arguably aren’t good for your tonearm bearing and the needle running over the record like that causes uneven wear which over time degrades the sound.
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Renée
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If the warp is minor and does not affect the sound at all, then I don't count it in grading or value
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I sold my Koko Taylor and the buyer insisted it was ‘1000% dish warped’ even though it played w/o issue. I assumed some variance was unavoidable (especially with VMP realeases I own) but he felt it was a total loss, apparently.
I depends on the level. If it’s a very small bump or dish no, if it’s a prominent edge or dish I’d 100% be complaining unless it has been pointed out and the record graded accordingly.
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Reaching out and communicating is usually a good next step. He went right to negative feedback. I wanted to tell him “That’s VMP, baby!”
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I get that. I guess I'm a realist after years of Dischord releases with weird manufacturing issues.
They don’t deserve me being fair to them BUT up until very recently they were good at replacements. I’d complain with warps and they’d keep trying until I got a flat one...
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If I’d requested replacements on every warp, their profit margin would be single digits.
And deservedly so, they don’t undercharge for their product...
Any type of warp / pressing defect affects the grading regardless of the buyer.
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By how much if play isn’t affected overtly? Down to VG+? Down to Good?
dhodo
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VG+ does actually mean that any defects DNAP. Any minor scuffs, hairline scratches. I guess a minor warp would probably apply. No record is literally perfectly flat, so you do have to draw a line somewhere. VG+ is basically a perfect record for all but perfectionists. NM means mint but open. Frustrating how few people who sell records online seem to get this.
I'm not assuming that you don't already know this, I just thought I'd say it in case anyone doesn't.
If it’s a minor warp and it sounds ok VG/VG+, If it’s a major warp it’s irrelevant how it sounds you’re down to a G tops.
dhodo
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I think for truly minor warps VG is a little extreme. Subjective other than the affecting play part.
Edit: I think goldmine says slight warps are ok for VG+ which is again subjective.
I think it depends, I tend to err on the side of caution and even within minor warps there are variances. For example I’d take a minor dish over a minor edge every day of the week. I get where you are coming from though!
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I think some people expect too much in vinyl collecting, but my opinion also is subjective.