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Just getting around to listening Portland on vinyl...on side c and the vocals are soooo soft I can barely hear shit.
Thought it might be a channel issue so put another record in to test and...nope that sounds fine.

have any of you come across this before ?
 
Crabbers said:
Just getting around to listening Portland on vinyl...on side c and the vocals are soooo soft I can barely hear shit.
Thought it might be a channel issue so put another record in to test and...nope that sounds fine.

have any of you come across this before ?
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Yup. Its a problem with the original soundboard recording by all accounts. Still. For the £60 I paid for the box I'm not complaining
 
Crabbers said:
It has me going crazy 😂😂
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I was the same. I had to wade through a 130 page thread on Steve Hoffman on that box to check mine wasn't knackered. They're a bit, erm, obsessive on there. They were talking about distortion on hi-hat segments that I couldn't hear even if you told me the exact point they happen. It was like reading a text from my dad!
 
Just got a copy of the Saint of Circumstance box set. It’s a ‘91 show, and I haven’t really gone too deep into these years. Got it at a nice discount so it felt worth taking a chance on. Love the look of the box
 
Crabbers said:
Just getting around to listening Portland on vinyl...on side c and the vocals are soooo soft I can barely hear shit.
Thought it might be a channel issue so put another record in to test and...nope that sounds fine.

have any of you come across this before ?
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It is a known issue with the master Soundboard tape. I warned about it in a previous post.
 
Bennnnn said:
Just got a copy of the Saint of Circumstance box set. It’s a ‘91 show, and I haven’t really gone too deep into these years. Got it at a nice discount so it felt worth taking a chance on. Love the look of the box
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I'm not huge on the last 5 or so years before Jerry died, but that's a really good show and box. A month before I was born.
 
Streaming Without A Net and its got me thinking about the VMP box again. I mean, my WMD isnt in great shape these days, I only have Europe 72 on CD (as well as a copy of the Newcastle gig from the box as my parents were actually at it... Fuckers...). Probably don't really need Reckoning as I've already got Warfield and I picked up Wake The Flood a few years ago in the RSD box. So trying to work out if the cost is worth it for a clean WMD, Europe and Without A Net which is pretty much the gaps it would fill. Although I'm guessing the American Beauty is the 50th too which I was going to pick up anyway so I could pass mine on to a friend.

It just feels about $50 to $100 on the wrong side of total madness.
 
Rowan said:
Streaming Without A Net and its got me thinking about the VMP box again. I mean, my WMD isnt in great shape these days, I only have Europe 72 on CD (as well as a copy of the Newcastle gig from the box as my parents were actually at it... Fuckers...). Probably don't really need Reckoning as I've already got Warfield and I picked up Wake The Flood a few years ago in the RSD box. So trying to work out if the cost is worth it for a clean WMD, Europe and Without A Net which is pretty much the gaps it would fill. Although I'm guessing the American Beauty is the 50th too which I was going to pick up anyway so I could pass mine on to a friend.

It just feels about $50 to $100 on the wrong side of total madness.
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I've emailed them and asked if they'd re-instate the discount code they dished out in May. If they will then I'll have gone from a 'that's totally ridiculous' to 'that's a bit ridiculous' to 'I can kinda, almost see the value' to 'I'm ridiculous' in under 5 months.
 
Rowan said:
I've emailed them and asked if they'd re-instate the discount code they dished out in May. If they will then I'll have gone from a 'that's totally ridiculous' to 'that's a bit ridiculous' to 'I can kinda, almost see the value' to 'I'm ridiculous' in under 5 months.
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To be fair that's about 4 months and 3 weeks longer than it usually takes for the forum to justify purchases that two weeks earlier we'd initially decried as blasphemy.
 
Rowan said:
Although I'm guessing the American Beauty is the 50th too
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This seems unlikely to me, assuming that the 50th is a new master/press, although I guess it depends on how many stampers were made (or if they were pressed at different plants). I think it's much more likely that the AB is from the same masters as the reissue from a few years ago (2018? 2016? I forget.)
 
yukbon said:
This seems unlikely to me, assuming that the 50th is a new master/press, although I guess it depends on how many stampers were made (or if they were pressed at different plants). I think it's much more likely that the AB is from the same masters as the reissue from a few years ago (2018? 2016? I forget.)
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I think they're definitely from something already out there. From the pictures of the set there are only 5 sets of tapes. If Without a Net is from digital that means there are 2 that aren't being completely overhauled and I've just assumed that they're AB and WMD. Bellman did the 2011 WMD and 2013 AB (at least I think those dates are right) so at first I thought they may just go back to those given they're great (although I only have the old Rhino AB) . If anyone has the 2011 WMD and 2020 Vinyl reissue I'd be interested to know if there is a difference between the two or if they just got Glasser to work on the live stuff and outtakes and kept the 2011 as it was. Failing that it's ploughing through a 7000 page thread on Steve Hoffman to try to find out
 
Rowan said:
I think they're definitely from something already out there. From the pictures of the set there are only 5 sets of tapes. If Without a Net is from digital that means there are 2 that aren't being completely overhauled and I've just assumed that they're AB and WMD. Bellman did the 2011 WMD and 2013 AB (at least I think those dates are right) so at first I thought they may just go back to those given they're great (although I only have the old Rhino AB) . If anyone has the 2011 WMD and 2020 Vinyl reissue I'd be interested to know if there is a difference between the two or if they just got Glasser to work on the live stuff and outtakes and kept the 2011 as it was. Failing that it's ploughing through a 7000 page thread on Steve Hoffman to try to find out
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The last Europe 72 from 2011 was a Bellman cut as well. I highly doubt that they had the 4 more recent cuts (AB, WD, WOTF, E72) fully redone. They are not the beacon of transparency, so the answer will be the dead wax.
 
wmeugene said:
The last Europe 72 from 2011 was a Bellman cut as well. I highly doubt that they had the 4 more recent cuts (AB, WD, WOTF, E72) fully redone. They are not the beacon of transparency, so the answer will be the dead wax.
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I was tempted to send them a fairly lengthy email to try to get to the bottom of it but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure they'll know the answers. As it is I'm kicking 2 ideas about either a new AB, the 2011 WMD, Nassau, Three From the Vault and Buffalo 77 (despite it looking like they've split Help on the Way/ Slipknot/ Franklin's Tower across 2 sides) or the VMP set which would mean I was short Europe 72, without a net and Terrapin station., I'm subbing Warfield for Reckoning here
 
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