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Turns out that states that cut unemployment benefits early found that this did not translate into a large portion of people jumping into open vacancies. And while some might head scratch at this development, the answer is found buried in the article. The people who did get jobs saw an overall income decrease from the enhanced unemployment benefits. The reason people are not wanting to work is because employers aren't paying them a livable wage.

It’s important to underscore here that these figures represent employment differences among the cohort of people who were unemployed at the end of April. This is different from analyzing overall employment differences among the labor force in each state. Some or all of the 4.4 percentage points of extra people who got a job in the Withdrawal States may have done so at the expense of other job seekers, making the net effect on overall employment even lower than this figure suggests.

Cutting unemployment benefits in this way has two countervailing income effects. It directly reduces income from UI benefits while indirectly increasing income from the earnings of those who obtain employment as a result of the cut. The researchers estimate that earnings rose among the Withdrawal cohort by an average of $14 per week while benefits declined by $278 per week. Thus, the net income change was a decline of $264 per week, or $13,728 on an annualized basis.


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Spending also decreased by $145 per week ($7,540 annually) in the Withdrawal cohort relative to the Retain cohort. This reduction in consumer spending will of course make it harder for businesses to hire people.


They mention in the article that a large number of American families reducing spending is not going to be good for our economy. I think this will have a devastating impact on our economy that we probably won't see for another couple years, but if prices continue to rise, we are going to have a lot of families having issues buying food and being able to afford housing. This is unsustainable.
 
Turns out that states that cut unemployment benefits early found that this did not translate into a large portion of people jumping into open vacancies. And while some might head scratch at this development, the answer is found buried in the article. The people who did get jobs saw an overall income decrease from the enhanced unemployment benefits. The reason people are not wanting to work is because employers aren't paying them a livable wage.

It’s important to underscore here that these figures represent employment differences among the cohort of people who were unemployed at the end of April. This is different from analyzing overall employment differences among the labor force in each state. Some or all of the 4.4 percentage points of extra people who got a job in the Withdrawal States may have done so at the expense of other job seekers, making the net effect on overall employment even lower than this figure suggests.

Cutting unemployment benefits in this way has two countervailing income effects. It directly reduces income from UI benefits while indirectly increasing income from the earnings of those who obtain employment as a result of the cut. The researchers estimate that earnings rose among the Withdrawal cohort by an average of $14 per week while benefits declined by $278 per week. Thus, the net income change was a decline of $264 per week, or $13,728 on an annualized basis.


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Spending also decreased by $145 per week ($7,540 annually) in the Withdrawal cohort relative to the Retain cohort. This reduction in consumer spending will of course make it harder for businesses to hire people.


They mention in the article that a large number of American families reducing spending is not going to be good for our economy. I think this will have a devastating impact on our economy that we probably won't see for another couple years, but if prices continue to rise, we are going to have a lot of families having issues buying food and being able to afford housing. This is unsustainable.

I have heard many financial experts say the stock market is overdue for a reset. It's not in touch with the economy right now. September historically has been a bad month for the stock market, with major crashes and being the start of the great depression, the recession in the 80's and 2000's.

With consumer spending down and all covid benefits ending it does look like the stock market is in for a tough time period. And this is not good for the average worker. Because businesses are so tied up around shareholder profits and the stock markets. A bit hit in stocks translates to businesses having layoffs and trying to do more with less to maximize profits for shareholders. It will also stall out any wage growth. New hires will be offered less, promotions could be put on hold until the stock market comes around. And if you are a non-executive to gets bonuses if you company hits their sales number. Yup, don't expect a bonus.
 
This should help Biden's approval ratings, that and Biden now has his own Benghazi.

 
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This former ICU nurse makes $200k a month on OnlyFans​

OnlyFans reversed its decision to ban sexually explicit content on the platform, after backlash from creators like Allie Rae who earn a living on the site

Only Fans has been in the news a lot recently. First for saying they were going to ban porn on their platform to saying they reversed their decision after listening to their community and learning they would lose most of their business if they went forward with it.

But take a look at the above headline and the money that former ICU nurse makes and really just think about that and what that means.

Maybe 200k is not the norm per month on Only Fans, but the average person who does have an Only Fans account makes far more than they would ever working a "real job" with a college degree.

Most of the influencers I follow on Instagram do in fact have Only Fans accounts now. Most are just a paid instagram with posts like they post on Instagram more often or full photo shoots instead of one photo. Some will venture as far as being topless occasionally, but none do porn. And they have talked about Only Fans and why they created one.

For example, one influencer created a YouTube video explaining why she created an Only Fans. She explained that followers had been asking her to create one for some time, but she always said no, it's not for me. Posting nude pictures of herself online isn't for her.

But then COVID hit, and at the heart of lockdown she found herself furloughed. She decided to give Only Fans a try for a month to supplement her income and make rent. She advertised no nudes / topless to avoid the "she's a scammer" reviews for not posting that kind of material and basically said my Only Fans will have similar posts to what's on my Instagram, just more often. And she made $7,000 after Only Fans 20% fees in her first week. $30,000 in her first month.

She told all her subscribers to not renew. That she wasn't going to continue after the first month. But virtually everyone renewed so she continued to post rather than deal with cancellations and refunds. 6 months later she was making $50,000 a month, paid off her student loans and purchased her first house.

She went on to explain how much money you make depends on what your willing to show. The more your willing to show the more money you can make. She explained that those willing to show it all make more than $100,000k a week. And in the case of the top 1% of content creators on Only Fans, that can be over a million a month.

But just think about that for a moment. If an average Only Fans account can make $7k a week or more, what does that say about what jobs and salaries pay us currently? Dare I say it's a sign of "not enough" if many younger people are choosing to make a living off Only Fans or still have a job but have an Only Fans to actually pay the bills? And Only Fans being one of the few options for younger adults to actually live a comfortable middle class lifestyle.
 
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Only Fans has been in the news a lot recently. First for saying they were going to ban porn on their platform to saying they reversed their decision after listening to their community and learning they would lose most of their business if they went forward with it.

But take a look at the above headline and the money that former ICU nurse makes and really just think about that and what that means.

Maybe 200k is not the norm per month on Only Fans, but the average person who does have an Only Fans account makes far more than they would ever working a "real job" with a college degree.

Most of the influencers I follow on Instagram do in fact have Only Fans accounts now. Most are just a paid instagram with posts like they post on Instagram more often or full photo shoots instead of one photo. Some will venture as far as being topless occasionally, but none do porn. And they have talked about Only Fans and why they created one.

For example, one influencer created a YouTube video explaining why she created an Only Fans. She explained that followers had been asking her to create one for some time, but she always said no, it's not for me. Posting nude pictures of herself online isn't for her.

But then COVID hit, and at the heart of lockdown she found herself furloughed. She decided to give Only Fans a try for a month to supplement her income and make rent. She advertised no nudes / topless to avoid the "she's a scammer" reviews for not posting that kind of material and basically said my Only Fans will have similar posts to what's on my Instagram, just more often. And she made $7,000 after Only Fans 20% fees in her first week. $30,000 in her first month.

She told all her subscribers to not renew. That she wasn't going to continue after the first month. But virtually everyone renewed so she continued to post rather than deal with cancellations and refunds. 6 months later she was making $50,000 a month, paid off her student loans and purchased her first house.

She went on to explain how much money you make depends on what your willing to show. The more your willing to show the more money you can make. She explained that those willing to show it all make more than $100,000k a week. And in the case of the top 1% of content creators on Only Fans, that can be over a million a month.

But just think about that for a moment. If an average Only Fans account can make $7k a week or more, what does that say about what jobs and salaries pay us currently? Dare I say it's a sign of "not enough" if many younger people are choosing to make a living off Only Fans or still have a job but have an Only Fans to actually pay the bills?

I do wonder how long this model will last. Like, will people as a whole get over paying for this service? I mean, porn is freely found on the internet, there are no shortage of attractive men, women, and in between to ogle. It's the personal experience a lot of these folks offer that sets it apart. Like, they respond to messages, and share more than just pictures, but aspects of their lives. It's like an "Internet Girlfriend/Boyfriend experience" you're sharing with thousands of people, but it feels personal.

Will people keep interest? Will the content creators be able to continue to hold their interest? You see it on YouTube with content creators constantly changing the way they do things, trying new formats, adding new things, just trying to keep up with those algorithms. Many quit after a couple years. They get really popular for a minute, make their dough, then it just falls off unless they adapt. I really wonder about the longevity of the onlyfans model. Good on anyone who can take advantage of what it is right now, though.
 
Maybe 200k is not the norm per month on Only Fans, but the average person who does have an Only Fans account makes far more than they would ever working a "real job" with a college degree.
Not if you were extrapolate out lifetime earnings. showing your naked parts on the internet might make ya a decent amount of money initially but the average porn star’s career is like 6 months. Depending on the degree/career path your earnings potential over a lifetime would far exceed most people’s porn career.
 
I do wonder how long this model will last. Like, will people as a whole get over paying for this service? I mean, porn is freely found on the internet, there are no shortage of attractive men, women, and in between to ogle. It's the personal experience a lot of these folks offer that sets it apart. Like, they respond to messages, and share more than just pictures, but aspects of their lives. It's like an "Internet Girlfriend/Boyfriend experience" you're sharing with thousands of people, but it feels personal.

Will people keep interest? Will the content creators be able to continue to hold their interest? You see it on YouTube with content creators constantly changing the way they do things, trying new formats, adding new things, just trying to keep up with those algorithms. Many quit after a couple years. They get really popular for a minute, make their dough, then it just falls off unless they adapt. I really wonder about the longevity of the onlyfans model. Good on anyone who can take advantage of what it is right now, though.


The longevity is pretty good. And it seems like there is not much adapting you need to do. You just need to keep posting. Anyone who stays active on the platform so far continues to make bank.

Those who just stop posting for whatever reasons, whether they now have a boyfriend or busy in life fade off as regular subscribers stop renewing. But still continue to make some money as new people join for a single month just to checkout what they posted.

Not if you were extrapolate out lifetime earnings. showing your naked parts on the internet might make ya a decent amount of money initially but the average porn star’s career is like 6 months. Depending on the degree/career path your earnings potential over a lifetime would far exceed most people’s porn career.

I wouldn't say it's fair to say it's comparable to a porn stars career. Sure, their are those who do post porn. But that's not everyone or the rule on Only Fans.

There are many Only Fans accounts that are several years old and going stronger than ever. As long as you keep posting you keep making money. And by posting that could mean a couple mirror selfies a month.

Sure Only Fans is not going to be a lifelong career. But there is a good potential that people could get 5 to 10 years of income out of it in their lifetime. And those potential earnings could be equal to their potential lifetime earnings from a regular job.
 




Only Fans has been in the news a lot recently. First for saying they were going to ban porn on their platform to saying they reversed their decision after listening to their community and learning they would lose most of their business if they went forward with it.

But take a look at the above headline and the money that former ICU nurse makes and really just think about that and what that means.

Maybe 200k is not the norm per month on Only Fans, but the average person who does have an Only Fans account makes far more than they would ever working a "real job" with a college degree.

Most of the influencers I follow on Instagram do in fact have Only Fans accounts now. Most are just a paid instagram with posts like they post on Instagram more often or full photo shoots instead of one photo. Some will venture as far as being topless occasionally, but none do porn. And they have talked about Only Fans and why they created one.

For example, one influencer created a YouTube video explaining why she created an Only Fans. She explained that followers had been asking her to create one for some time, but she always said no, it's not for me. Posting nude pictures of herself online isn't for her.

But then COVID hit, and at the heart of lockdown she found herself furloughed. She decided to give Only Fans a try for a month to supplement her income and make rent. She advertised no nudes / topless to avoid the "she's a scammer" reviews for not posting that kind of material and basically said my Only Fans will have similar posts to what's on my Instagram, just more often. And she made $7,000 after Only Fans 20% fees in her first week. $30,000 in her first month.

She told all her subscribers to not renew. That she wasn't going to continue after the first month. But virtually everyone renewed so she continued to post rather than deal with cancellations and refunds. 6 months later she was making $50,000 a month, paid off her student loans and purchased her first house.

She went on to explain how much money you make depends on what your willing to show. The more your willing to show the more money you can make. She explained that those willing to show it all make more than $100,000k a week. And in the case of the top 1% of content creators on Only Fans, that can be over a million a month.

But just think about that for a moment. If an average Only Fans account can make $7k a week or more, what does that say about what jobs and salaries pay us currently? Dare I say it's a sign of "not enough" if many younger people are choosing to make a living off Only Fans or still have a job but have an Only Fans to actually pay the bills? And Only Fans being one of the few options for younger adults to actually live a comfortable middle class lifestyle.



Guys on only fans trying to make money.

 
To be clear, you're saying this was one average person whose account brings in this revenue, not that this is the average income for someone who produces content, correct?

By average person I'm talking about about someone who has an Only Fans account, posts a couple times a week and does not have nudity or porn who has about 15,000 followers on social media before creating their account.

So correct, I'm not talking about someone who produces content as in nudes or porn.
 
To add to this, the top 10 accounts make this much a month:

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The actual average amount a person makes is $180 a month on Only Fans. But men tend to make a lot less than women, and this includes lots of accounts created where people kept them private or never posted anything.

So when I was referring to average, I was actually referring to what the average is for women who list their Only Fans on their socials. Basically someone who is actually participating and trying to make it work.
 
To add to this, the top 10 accounts make this much a month:

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The actual average amount a person makes is $180 a month on Only Fans. But men tend to make a lot less than women, and this includes lots of accounts created where people kept them private or never posted anything.

So when I was referring to average, I was actually referring to what the average is for women who list their Only Fans on their socials.
Mia Khalifa is a porn Star BTW.
 
How many people have 15k followers?

When you are talking about young adults or college age people. 15k is nothing. Many have that many.

For older people like you and me. 15 is a mind blowing number. For teenagers these days it's easy peasy to accomplish.

Mia Khalifa is a porn Star BTW.

Not surprised. These are the extremes. Bella Thorne and Cardi B are the only names I recognize of the top 10.
 
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