Vinyl Me Pauly (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

[MikeH]

They’re selling the discord? Is a discord even worth anything?

Data and user base is worth money to someone. The discord is part of their assets. If anybody wants to scrub their discord data, there are ways to do it? Although it’s possible it was already backed up.

 

[ntaos]

Wait are they really selling it? Thats bananas.

 

[MikeH]

Wait are they really selling it? Thats bananas.

I assume the liquidators are just telling them not to delete it because it’s a company asset and they try to sell anything and everything to recoup debts

 

[Biscuit]

I assume the liquidators are just telling them not to delete it because it’s a company asset and they try to sell anything and everything to recoup debts

The names/addresses and associated email data for all the subscribers over the years will be valuable to any company that would want to peddle music-related items to an audience. Any money selling that list to multiple buyers will help pay down debt.

 

[Nee Lewman]

The names/addresses and associated email data for all the subscribers over the years will be valuable to any company that would want to peddle music-related items to an audience. Any money selling that list to multiple buyers will help pay down debt.

Except, theoretically, all that data is in the member information of the company. As you were supposed to be a member to be in the community.

I get there being value in their database, I just can’t figure out what someone would gleam from the discord.

 

[ntaos]

I assume the liquidators are just telling them not to delete it because it’s a company asset and they try to sell anything and everything to recoup debts

Ah got it, thanks. Makes sense. And also makes absolutely no sense. This whole thing has been so weird

 

[MikeH]

The names/addresses and associated email data for all the subscribers over the years will be valuable to any company that would want to peddle music-related items to an audience. Any money selling that list to multiple buyers will help pay down debt.

Don’t think they will even be able to get email addresses from the VMP discord. But it is a “community” with 4,500 members so that’s likely valuable to someone

 

[MikeH]

Ah got it, thanks. Makes sense. And also makes absolutely no sense. This whole thing has been so weird

The simplest way to put it is they owe money to people and liquidators don’t want them to get rid of anything that may remotely be deemed valuable to anyone.

 

[Skalap]

It reminds me if the guy who came from nowhere, started a new forum and thought we would all join so at some point he could sell it. Where is that guy?

 

[Turbo]

Except, theoretically, all that data is in the member information of the company. As you were supposed to be a member to be in the community.

I get there being value in their database, I just can’t figure out what someone would gleam from the discord.

I'm just spitballing. It may be the same people that are already members, but the subset might be valuable to some. A list of those members that engage more online, that maybe are younger, maybe "super fans" of vinyl, of the company, etc. I don't actually know what that could be to a buyer, but a subset may certainly have value.

 

[Hemotep]

I'm just spitballing. It may be the same people that are already members, but the subset might be valuable to some. A list of those members that engage more online, that maybe are younger, maybe "super fans" of vinyl, of the company, etc. I don't actually know what that could be to a buyer, but a subset may certainly have value.

This might be true, but it's not tied to their member data because our user names on discord aren't linked to our memberships. So you have the membership data which shows contact info and how much they spend. Then you have the discord data which shows how much some random screen names post. The value, if there is any, can't be in that because anyone who has access to the channel can see that for free. The only benefit is communicating to those who are already on the channel, but why would anyone stay subbed if they sell it and some random company starts advertising on the channel?

 

[Hemotep]

Don’t think they will even be able to get email addresses from the VMP discord. But it is a “community” with 4,500 members so that’s likely valuable to someone

But the "community" is dead. It had value if they'd maintained it and kept it going. But now it's just a repository of complaints.

 

[Hemotep]

The simplest way to put it is they owe money to people and liquidators don’t want them to get rid of anything that may remotely be deemed valuable to anyone.

I think this is it. Only thing that makes any sense.

 

[ntaos]

The simplest way to put it is they owe money to people and liquidators don’t want them to get rid of anything that may remotely be deemed valuable to anyone.

I’m glad some spreadsheet will finally hold the answer the one of life’s enduring mysteries: what’s worth more, a crate of Sam Hunt records or a moribund Discord server?

 

[wmeugene]

I’m glad some spreadsheet will finally hold the answer the one of life’s enduring mysteries: what’s worth more, a crate of Sam Hunt records or a moribund Discord server?

I imagine the server as the records would likely have negative value as they’d cost more to store than they’re worth

 

[Skalap]

I imagine the server as the records would likely have negative value as they’d cost more to store than they’re worth

How does a 40% discount works on a negative value?

 

[Turbo]

This might be true, but it's not tied to their member data because our user names on discord aren't linked to our memberships. So you have the membership data which shows contact info and how much they spend. Then you have the discord data which shows how much some random screen names post. The value, if there is any, can't be in that because anyone who has access to the channel can see that for free. The only benefit is communicating to those who are already on the channel, but why would anyone stay subbed if they sell it and some random company starts advertising on the channel?

I don't think this contradicts anything I mentioned. It's a list of people with a shared interest in vinyl collecting and which showed a comparatively increased level of engagement. It would certainly be used for communicating with them, why I have no idea (a list of suckers, lol), but it could certainly have value to some. Now, if someone can compile it themselves by scraping online data, that's another issue (and somewhat troubling, if not really all that surprising).

 

[Turbo]

How does a 40% discount works on a negative value?

They give you less money to take it off their hands.

 

[Nee Lewman]

They give you less money to take it off their hands.

Wouldn’t they give you more? A negative number with another number subtracted is a larger negative number. -100 with a 40% off discount would be -140.

 

[Turbo]

Wouldn’t they give you more? A negative number with another number subtracted is a larger negative number. -100 with a 40% off discount would be -140.

It's a multiplication. 40% off of -100 would actually be -60.