Indymisanthrope
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Yeah, based on the Twitter comments, it looks like that’s exactly it.
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AnthonyI
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This made my morning 
Just to cheer you Americans up things are just as fucked up over here, if not more so.
While you all know me as Irish a lot of you know that I was born and grew up in England. Britain is facing a true crisis with bojo as pm but even worse is the cancer of Jeremy Corbyn on the other side of the house. I have been a labour supporter my whole life and this is the first labour leader I could not vote for.
I was never a huge fan of Alistair Campbell’s but everything he says here runs true for me in relation to the anti Semitic trot. Him and momentum have destroyed a once proud party.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk
While you all know me as Irish a lot of you know that I was born and grew up in England. Britain is facing a true crisis with bojo as pm but even worse is the cancer of Jeremy Corbyn on the other side of the house. I have been a labour supporter my whole life and this is the first labour leader I could not vote for.
I was never a huge fan of Alistair Campbell’s but everything he says here runs true for me in relation to the anti Semitic trot. Him and momentum have destroyed a once proud party.
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL: Why I no longer want to be readmitted to Labour
In a frank, honest letter to the Labour leader ALASTAIR CAMPBELL says he no longer wants to be readmitted to the party he's spent his...
Apparently my dental insurance is more of a joke than I thought.
Did realize this, but it has a yearly maximum of 1,000 coverage. Just got the statement from my recent visit and it shows how much of my $1,000 maximum coverage is left after my recent dental visit. Because they did x-rays, if I were to have an other cleaning in December it looks like it would be mostly out of pocket for me. So I moved it to January.
That being said, if I ever needed a dental procedure such as a root canal, does that $1,000 maximum still apply? If so it sounds like I would be paying mostly out of pocket for one. Thank god I don't need one.
Did realize this, but it has a yearly maximum of 1,000 coverage. Just got the statement from my recent visit and it shows how much of my $1,000 maximum coverage is left after my recent dental visit. Because they did x-rays, if I were to have an other cleaning in December it looks like it would be mostly out of pocket for me. So I moved it to January.
That being said, if I ever needed a dental procedure such as a root canal, does that $1,000 maximum still apply? If so it sounds like I would be paying mostly out of pocket for one. Thank god I don't need one.
Debate tonight. Who's watching?
Latest polls show that Biden's lead has grown significantly ahead of debate number 2. I'm hoping Biden has an other poor showing so hopefully he can lose ground.
We need change, not status quo.
Latest polls show that Biden's lead has grown significantly ahead of debate number 2. I'm hoping Biden has an other poor showing so hopefully he can lose ground.
We need change, not status quo.
I agree, but I think if we don't get Biden as the democratic nominee then we get Trump for four more years. To be honest, I think if Pete Buttigieg wasn't gay, he might have a chance. America the great, land of the homophobic, sexist and racist.
ayayrawn
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If we DO get Joe Biden, we are royally fucked. He's the same kind of milquetoast centrist Hillary was, and he will 100% lose.
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AnthonyI
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I'm starting to feel like we're looking for a 4 year band aid at this point just to put the Trump years behind us....hopefully.
Yes, that's what the baby boomers want and the democratic party leadership.
However, I really think we need change. We need to solve issues now. Not defer for possibly 16 years.
But we also have polls that say if there was an election today, between Bernie and Trump that Bernie would come out on top. We don't know what will happen. After all, Trump did win in 2016. We shouldn't write him or Elizabeth off as unelectable.
One of the things that scares me the most is it seems like the Republican Party wants to run against Biden. I feel like they think they can beat him in any election. Biden doesn't energize the base. He is just the safe status quo candidate.
Climate change much be addressed in the next 10 years or it will be too late. Which is going to take someone willing to shake things up because the Republicans still wont even acknowledge that climate change exist / is real and are in favor of short term polices that bring in high profits for corporations and shareholders.
Medicare for all is not extremist left views. It's what the rest of the developed world already has. We are not taking peoples health insurance away. We are giving them something better with no deductibles or co-pays. Yes we will pay more in taxes, but we wont have to pay premiums. If we compare the two side by side we will actually be saving money. Our healthcare system is seriously broken and prices are going out of control.
Student loan debt is a major issue that needs to be addressed. It's crippling. I graduated college/university in 2008 with 55K in student loan debt. My payoff value is actually 78K today. I have lost ground rather than making a dent in my student loan debt. How did this happen? The recession hit right after I graduated from college. I could not get a job in my field. (Well I got one that lasted 6 months before the small company I worked for folded). But for the most part I ended up in retail management for 4 years after graduating until the economy got better making only about 30k a year working 55+ hours a week. I used up my 2 years of deferment because I could not afford to pay student loans and rent. Interest just kept piling on. Then I was laid off for a year in 2015 and could not afford to make payments then either with just a random temp job here, freelance job there while on the job hunt.
AnthonyI
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Completely agree and I'm a boomer, but its becoming the writing on the wall, too many in office and the public have become fixated at just getting Trump out of office, regardless of the cost.
ayayrawn
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Baffled as to how anyone can watch this and think Joe Biden is still the best bet to take on Trump
It is not whether I think he is the best bet, at this point I'll take anybody not named Donald Trump or Mitch McConnell.
Indymisanthrope
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Of course he's got the biggest target painted on his back in the debates because of his perceived status as frontrunner, but I still thought he did a fairly weak job of fending off attacks from Harris, Booker, Gillibrand, and de Blasio (????) last night. Ending a good number of his responses with "well anyway," in a "you know what I mean" sense when the moderators were cutting him off, might be his natural reaction, but it made it appear as if he couldn't conclude his thoughts. And then he capped that performance with a catastrophic goof in his closing statement. Mixing up directing people to a url with telling them how to text his campaign, especially coming last in line after several candidates had successfully done the same thing, made him look old and lost.
It makes me sad, because I generally like Biden and I appreciate the service that he did give to America, especially as a VP people could relate to in the Obama years. I don't want to see this primary tear him down to the point that he looks pathetic. But I think that's the direction we're headed.
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Dtknuckles
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Booker going on and on about splitting the Dems. Come on man its supposed to be a debate not a sing along. It's gotta be Thunderdome if they are gonna get past Trump.
Dtknuckles
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I was listening to a Rep strategist and he said Biden won't be the candidate for this very reason. He always does something to fuck things up.
On a one on one basis he's good with people, both my father and step mother have met him.
I wasn't paying much attention during the Obama years, 2 jobs and grad school, but from what I'm hearing there are some people looking back and it wasn't as rosy as was thought.
Indymisanthrope
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Totally. But it was also a product of its time, y'know? I'm on the side of acknowledging that were deep flaws in the Obama administration for various policies and for various reasons, but that Obama and Biden were still personally good, admirable men who were doing the best they could.
Is there plenty for today's candidates to criticize about how the policies of the Obama admin aren't a good enough status quo to return to? Absolutely. But I still don't want to watch Biden invite his fellow party leaders to dismantle a reasonably good legacy to his face, on stage, just because CNN and MSNBC's horse race optics require it.
Dtknuckles
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As far as dismantling a legacy, I refer you to Mcain. That guy couldn't find a war he didn't want to be involved in. He's got a lot of blood on his hands. Yet when he died everybody spoke about him as if he was some admirable guy. Don't worry Biden will get the same treatment when he dies.
Dtknuckles
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I've been watching parks and Rec over the summer. It's funny enough to put me to sleep every night, but there are times when the sycophantic treatment of politicians makes my skin crawl.
Sonicpharmacist
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The people who think Biden has the best chance to beat Trump know that many voters aren’t as engaged as we and those who watch the debates are. Biden has name recognition and is forever linked to the Obama administration. I’d prefer Warren if I had my choice, but my primary goal is to get that fucker out of office. As my shirt says.....
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Exactly, I’ll take a fucking doorknob at this point as long as we get the shitstain out of office.