Neverending Covid-19 Coronavirus

Melt Face Molly Drop said:
That’s part of it, but the vaccine is designed to teach the immune system to beat the virus before one can even get to the stage of positivity. Sounds like it just did not take as anticipated for her. A positive test still means she’s infected and no symptoms is not synonymous with no long term health effects as we’ve seen with others.

She’s in the medical field and seemed perturbed enough about it, so I don’t think we should take a cavalier approach re: no symptoms = in the clear.
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Sorry, didn't mean to come off cavalier. I was just told from the get go that getting the vaccine makes you less likely to contract it, sure, but more so less likely to have serious symptoms if you do contract it. I mean it's been hammered into me that I can still carry COVID while vaccinated, so continuing to be careful and wear a mask is important around those who are not vaccinated for their safety. I guess that's why someone testing positive, which is always going to be a thing, but showing no symptoms, which keeps them out of the hospital, seems like a positive thing and not cause to worry.

It is true we don't know the long term consequences of contracting COVID, but I fully expect it'll continue to run through all of us after we've all been vaccinated, just at a much less serious cost, hopefully.
 
Max Sterling said:
Sorry, didn't mean to come off cavalier. I was just told from the get go that getting the vaccine makes you less likely to contract it, sure, but more so less likely to have serious symptoms if you do contract it. I mean it's been hammered into me that I can still carry COVID while vaccinated, so continuing to be careful and wear a mask is important around those who are not vaccinated for their safety. I guess that's why someone testing positive, which is always going to be a thing, but showing no symptoms, which keeps them out of the hospital, seems like a positive thing and not cause to worry.

It is true we don't know the long term consequences of contracting COVID, but I fully expect it'll continue to run through all of us after we've all been vaccinated, just at a much less serious cost, hopefully.
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Definitely agree. I think it was a failure on the part of the media outlets when they blasted the headline that you could still get covid after getting the vaccine. So many anti vaxxers grabbed that as if it was related to poor efficacy of this vaccine, when it reality it’s every vaccine. This one just has heightened visibility. I guess time will tell if we have to get this yearly, but the future looks bleak in that regard.
 
Spring schedules are out and go into effect for Boston area publican transportation later this month.

Instead of seeing service restored to pre-pandemic levels or at least rebound now that we have a vaccine and more people will start returning to work we are saying additional service cuts due to budget problems.

Weekend service taking additional hits. A couple more trains taken out of the frequency for Commuter Rail. Still no return of express trains.

Inner City Subway which saw a 20% cut will be returning to 15% of pre-pandemic levels in terms of frequencies on weekdays only.
 
Just to clarify the Pfizer & Moderna numbers - the initial 95-ish% numbers published related to the efficacy vs moderate and severe disease, not vs all forms (contrary to J&J and AZ, which published efficacy vs wider forms of disease). Confusing, I know, but that's what it was.

The CDC recently published real-world data for all forms of diseases (they did weekly PCR tests on people in the trial to detect asymptomatic infections) with Pfizer & Moderna, and that efficacy is 80%.

Taken together, out of 20 people, in a mostly non-vaccinated population, you'd expect on average 16 to be fully protected against all forms , 3 to be susceptible to mild (possibly asymptomatic forms) and 1 to be susceptible to a get a moderate to severe form (but not be hospitalized or killed). All this may be caused by different factors including the viral load people are exposed to and not just the individual immune systems.

Those numbers would be expected to improve with herd immunity.
 
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My girlfriend just got her first shot. So relieved, because she's a smoker and a bartender at a busy restaurant. Why she had to wait for it to open up to everyone, I have no idea, but I'm just happy she got it. After she gets her second, we are driving down to Alabama to stay with some friends in Mobile Bay and it is going to feel like we're going to fucking Disney World!!! :ROFLMAO: I mean, they have a heated pool and a pontoon boat, so it'll be just as good as adult Disney World to us. I gotta say, I'm excited for this boring-ass long drive, just to be out of the apartment!

We are a little a worried about mask policies down there. I hear Alabama is surprisingly conscientious when it comes to mask safety, but we'll see. We shouldn't really be leaving the house except to get groceries or gas up the boat, anyway. We will both be vaccinated, but I still worry about spreading it to people.
 
With all the shit show surrounding the Astra-Zeneca vaccine, about a week ago Health Canada restricted its use to people above 55. The calculation is that the risk-benefit tilts in favor of the vaccine at that age.

They've been trying to figure out how to distribute now that we received millions of doses of it. They want to give people an informed choice.

In my province, the initial solution was to open walk-in vaccination sites for people above 55. Started today.

Well, in all sites across the province people lined up in the wee hours to receive their time tickets. It looks like a 2000's iPhone launch (well other than the masks and the huge gaps between people in the lines)!

This is such good news. So happy that there are thousands out there that understand risk-reward concepts!
 
I worry a bit about folks acting as if they're fully vaccinated the day of their second dose (which could easily account for folks who test positive more than 14 days out). It's 2 weeks from the second shot (minimum/average), but people are celebrating immediately with riskier behaviors than they should.
 
GritNGlitter said:
I worry a bit about folks acting as if they're fully vaccinated the day of their second dose (which could easily account for folks who test positive more than 14 days out). It's 2 weeks from the second shot (minimum/average), but people are celebrating immediately with riskier behaviors than they should.
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Yeah, I mean I think you’re around 80% by the time you go in for shot 2 but even if you’re fully up there’s no reason to go full risk behavior. I’m still not planning to do much of anything with people unless all of them are vaccinated. I am looking forward to seeing my friends again at a house party in a few weeks when we’re all at max immunity.
 
Also, we, in the US, will not get rid of Covid until we address it in Latin America. Here's a good article about Covid spread in Brazil with a lot of graphs. Right now, the president is finally on board with a vaccination push, but they are running into the problem of not having enough vaccine.

Brazilian microbiologist Natalia Pasternak says: "We have a great immunisation programme, one of the best in the world. If we have enough doses, we know what to do, we have the expertise and the structure. We just need vaccines."
Only around half the target of 46 million vaccine doses were delivered by the end of March.
Brazil has now ordered enough doses to vaccinate its entire population - but critics say these agreements have come far too late, as other large countries with similar purchasing power are now ahead in the queue.
In August, Brazil's government turned down an offer from Pfizer to purchase up to 70 million doses of its vaccine.
It has recently ordered 100 million doses of Pfizer's vaccine, but the bulk of these will not arrive until the second half of the year.

www.bbc.com

Covid Brazil: Why could Bolsonaro face charges?

President Bolsonaro has downplayed the pandemic and resisted lockdowns - and could now face criminal charges.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
ranbalam said:
Got my 2nd Moderna today about 1 pm. It was a 2 hour affair, the line was insane but not much choice but to get in it and wait.

So far just a sore arm, but I am expecting to feel like crap tomorrow. Bonus day off if I feel fine!
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Wow, this sucks. 101.4 fever, chills, headache. Came on out of nowhere about an hour after I woke up this morning.
I realize this is part of the cure...so I'd hate for people to skip the shot because of not wanting to feel like crap for a day. My advice is to leave your next day open if you can.
 
ranbalam said:
Wow, this sucks. 101.4 fever, chills, headache. Came on out of nowhere about an hour after I woke up this morning.
I realize this is part of the cure...so I'd hate for people to skip the shot because of not wanting to feel like crap for a day. My advice is to leave your next day open if you can.
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Already took next Friday off in prep for my Thursday second dose. Hang in there!
 
I thought I’d be fighting that fever all night, but about 6 pm it just kind of went away...almost like when brainfreeze subsides, like ahhhh, normal. I was having a beer on my patio at 7:30, like nothing happened.

So, I’m happy to report that I feel good this morning too. And in two weeks I’ll have a certain confidence that has been missing for well over a year. I’ll still mask up and be careful, but on the inside I’ll be giddy.
 
folsom_lives said:
My wife’s cousin is in the hospital on oxygen and in pretty rough shape. Just reminding everyone this shit is still real and while I’m excited to be getting vaccinated there are still vulnerable people out there. Stay safe. Wear a mask.
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Sorry to hear that my friend. My thoughts and prayers are with your wife's cousin 🙏❤
 
I can now officially say, I personally know someone who has COVID-19 😔 My friend Jason, the owner of Sound & Sight, was a little cavalier about COVID and unfortunately now has it. He is at home 🏡 resting (quarantined) but he's in a great deal of pain. To make matters worse, he's diabetic and had a heart attack in recent years. 😳 Everybody is invincible until they're not! This post is a statement to remind people to stay vigilant and take this deadly virus seriously. We've all been too relaxed on our response and handling of it all. We all have a part to play in this, and now is not the time to get complacent as more and more people are getting vaccinated 💉 Let's see now how this all plays out 🙏❤
 
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So after we get annual reviews for our clients out of the way, I'm going to work with a team in my department to look at Covid long haul symptoms. I'm really looking forward into diving into medical data and attempting to extrapolate long haul Covid effects.

So in anticipation, I'll probably post more research on long haul Covid, like this article.

A survey earlier this month from the Office for National Statistics in Britain polled more than 20,000 participants who’d tested positive for Covid-19 in the last year and found that one in five survivors reported having symptoms after five weeks—and at 12 weeks, the number was still 13.7% (almost one in seven people). The most common symptoms experienced at five weeks were fatigue (11.8%), cough (11%), headache (10%), and muscle pain (7.7%). (Loss of taste and smell followed, each affecting about 6.3% of participants.) At 12 weeks, the prevalence of symptoms was slightly lower, but still distributed similarly and much higher than a control group who hadn’t had Covid-19.

www.forbes.com

How Common Is ‘Long Covid’? New Studies Suggest More Than Previously Thought

Once upon a time, it seemed that once you recovered from Covid-19, you were home free. Now we know that's not always the case.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

I also read an article about how long haul Covid symptoms are not horribly different from other SARS like viruses, as these viruses also can cause long haul symptoms.
 
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