Pre-Order Thread

Ericj32 said:
After all the issues with her vinyl releases last year, I wonder if they've made any changes to the chain of production. My copy of Punisher sounded like someone was blasting it in their car with all the windows rolled up but you were outside the car and like 5 feet away.
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YES! This description is dead on.
 
Ericj32 said:
After all the issues with her vinyl releases last year, I wonder if they've made any changes to the chain of production. My copy of Punisher sounded like someone was blasting it in their car with all the windows rolled up but you were outside the car and like 5 feet away.
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Social distancing! They were going for 6 feet away so sounds like you got a little closer then most.
 
Ericj32 said:
After all the issues with her vinyl releases last year, I wonder if they've made any changes to the chain of production. My copy of Punisher sounded like someone was blasting it in their car with all the windows rolled up but you were outside the car and like 5 feet away.
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The TTL and blue silver swirly one both sounded good. They don’t sound incredible but definitely not what you’re describing. Copycat Killer sounds great too.
 
MikeH said:
The TTL and blue silver swirly one both sounded good. They don’t sound incredible but definitely not what you’re describing. Copycat Killer sounds great too.
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That’s really weird because the one I have also sounds distant and vaguely distorted (mastered down a pay phone was my take) and I have no idea how a pressing defect would cause that, I had it completely put down to the mastering being shit.
 
Joe Mac said:
That’s really weird because the one I have also sounds distant and vaguely distorted (mastered down a pay phone was my take) and I have no idea how a pressing defect would cause that, I had it completely put down to the mastering being shit.
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no issues going on with your stylus?
 
MikeH said:
I’ll try an A/B with the digital stream some point soon. I know a few others with “good” sounding copies too. There are dozens of us!!
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Yeah my qobuz stream is everything my record isn’t. Clear and punchy! I really do wish that in general secretly group cared more about the sound of their records than how pretty they are. Routinely the nicest looking and crackliest, worst mastered records I buy. Two exceptions. Moses and Aaron Fraser.
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah my qobuz stream is everything my record isn’t. Clear and punchy! I really do wish that in general secretly group cared more about the sound of their records than how pretty they are. Routinely the nicest looking and crackliest, worst mastered records I buy. Two exceptions. Moses and Aaron Fraser.
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Agreed on the Moses and Aaron Fraser. Both sound great (helps that Fraser was AAA too).
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah my qobuz stream is everything my record isn’t. Clear and punchy! I really do wish that in general secretly group cared more about the sound of their records than how pretty they are. Routinely the nicest looking and crackliest, worst mastered records I buy. Two exceptions. Moses and Aaron Fraser.
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The Shame record sounded pretty good too. But yeah, there can definitely be some stinkers in their catalog.
 
Joe Mac said:
Yeah my qobuz stream is everything my record isn’t. Clear and punchy! I really do wish that in general secretly group cared more about the sound of their records than how pretty they are. Routinely the nicest looking and crackliest, worst mastered records I buy. Two exceptions. Moses and Aaron Fraser.
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Did a quick A/B test and the vinyl is definitely less punchy than Qobuz for Punisher, but my copy doesn't seem to be as awful as the copies most people here seem to have. Mine also has zero surface noise and I didn't even clean it yet (just got the TTL one the other day). I wouldn't say it's a great sounding pressing at all now that I have A/B-ed it directly to the high-res, but just isn't completely awful for me. It kinda sounds like it's a mastering issue that was compounded by bad pressing plant quality control.
 
Yeah, I feel like there are two distinct Punisher issues (to Joe's point). The first is the surface noise issues many have experienced. I, like Mike, got a clean copy out of the sleeve and can't relate to that. It's certainly common enough that it happens with some frequency. The second is likely mastering quality. I use the phone booth comparison too (stealing from Joe on this one 100%) when trying to describe it, there's an odd distance to the record in spots for sure

I'll be honest and it'll reflect on my general lack of higher quality hardware, but I just A/Bed a couple songs between Spotify's highest base setting (Nashville Too and I Know The End) and the record I have and outside of a little bit of punchiness that the vinyl is missing I just didn't hear a major difference between the two. This isn't me arguing the mastering is great but probably rather that a high quality set-up or true HQ stream (like a Tidal or a Qobuz) reveals things that you wouldn't get otherwise or enhances aspects.

It's not great but before the convos here and on other forums I certainly wouldn't have picked it out of a lineup for being particularly bad either.
 
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