Political Discussion

[Enoch]

Wanna get high speed trains? no! Can we rebuild our roads? no! Can we get affordable heatlhcare? no! Can we get affordable public and higher education? no! Can we limit a woman's right and control their body by telling them what they need to do? Sure, we can do that!

It just blows my mind how for the past 25 years since I start caring about politics how frequently Abortion is talked about. I don't know what it's like in every country but the countries I lived in Abortion was something you decided on and was your business only, yet here we make it a national emergency.

I really have no faith in the S.C to keep Roe v Wade alive. Just sad, people who claim to be all about protecting your rights as a free person are the same people who allow the government to decide what someone can and can't do to their body.

Dead bodies have more rights than women do these days

I acknowledged there is a difference and I am not the one bringing religion into it. There is still a fundamental violation of rights to force vaccines into people. I might be willing to blur the line a little more if government and related pharmaceutical companies could actually be trusted to truly have people’s best interests in mind. At any rate, I see it as a huge slippery slope once we say people must be injected with whatever the government decrees.

Besides, my argument is that you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Quit muddying the waters with partisan politics and religion. Decide if people have a right to their own bodies or not. Once that is settled then abortion is a decided issue.

We could easily have an about ten year flu vaccine if Rx companies weren't more interest in money than health, (Flu virus has an outer coating that changes less frequently, it is thought having a vaccine geared toward that would be a longer term solution)

I'm REALLY not feeling Biden. Also his interactions with people makes me very uncomfortable

yep, he is too "centrist" of course centrist is right of the overall public because the right has gotten even more right than ever

Education is a right not a privilege. It should be free.

what Americans fail to realize is it is a good investment in the future, sure at first it will hurt financially now but it will be worth it (the elected officials on the right are more worried about the now than the future even if that means they are screwing over their grandkids and great grandkids.)

 

[RenegadeMonster]

A man lit himself on fire in front of the White House this afternoon and was walking around in front of the White House fully engulfed in flames.

He must have been wearing some kind of fire protection suit as he was able to walk around casually for awhile until they extinguished him and made the arrest.

Man Who Sets Himself on Fire in D.C. Was on Hallucinogenics, Cops Believe

Police are responding to a man who set himself on fire less than a mile from the White House.

www.tmz.com

 

[Dtknuckles]

A man lit himself on fire in front of the White House this afternoon and was walking around in front of the White House fully engulfed in flames.

He must have been wearing some kind of fire protection suit as he was able to walk around casually for awhile until they extinguished him and made the arrest.

Man Who Sets Himself on Fire in D.C. Was on Hallucinogenics, Cops Believe

Police are responding to a man who set himself on fire less than a mile from the White House.

www.tmz.com

Obviously he's not a Buddhist.

 

[andyf]

A man lit himself on fire in front of the White House this afternoon and was walking around in front of the White House fully engulfed in flames.

He must have been wearing some kind of fire protection suit as he was able to walk around casually for awhile until they extinguished him and made the arrest.

Man Who Sets Himself on Fire in D.C. Was on Hallucinogenics, Cops Believe

Police are responding to a man who set himself on fire less than a mile from the White House.

www.tmz.com

Must be a King Gizzard fan.

 

[RenegadeMonster]

When doing the right thing is bad politics.

Political experts say impeaching Trump is the good management of the government and proper use of checks and balances. Doing it would be the right thing to do based on the facts. However, doing so would be bad politics. If the democrats moved forward with it it would be the equivalent of political suicide for them. It would likely cost them the 2020 election and seats in both the house and senate giving full power back to the Republicans for an other 4 years.

Doing so would get the Republican base / Trump supporters really rallied up and angry.

What have we come to...

 

[Enoch]

When doing the right thing is bad politics.

Political experts say impeaching Trump is the good management of the government and proper use of checks and balances. Doing it would be the right thing to do based on the facts. However, doing so would be bad politics. If the democrats moved forward with it it would be the equivalent of political suicide for them. It would likely cost them the 2020 election and seats in both the house and senate giving full power back to the Republicans for an other 4 years.

Doing so would get the Republican base / Trump supporters really rallied up and angry.

What have we come to...

my guess is if he wins 2020 impeachment will start right away as there will be time for it to be finished before 2024

 

[Dtknuckles]

Doing it would be the right thing to do based on the facts. However, doing so would be bad politics. If the democrats moved forward with it it would be the equivalent of political suicide for them. It would likely cost them the 2020 election and seats in both the house and senate giving full power back to the Republicans for an other 4 years.

I've seen a lot of people saying this but have not seen anything that would indicate that this would actually happen.

 

[Enoch]

I've seen a lot of people saying this but have not seen anything that would indicate that this would actually happen.

it is based off the Clinton impeachment

 

[Dtknuckles]

it is based off the Clinton impeachment

Clinton won more than the electoral college. And was more popular at the time, wasn't he?

 

[Enoch]

Clinton won more than the electoral college. And was more popular at the time, wasn't he?

polls showed that people didn't like the impeachment and I think polls right now don't show a lot of support for it

 

[Dtknuckles]

polls showed that people didn't like the impeachment and I think polls right now don't show a lot of support for it

Maybe, but it should be obvious to people that Clinton:Trump is not a 1:1 correlation. Clinton was a lot more popular.

I wonder what the question was like on the polls that they are using. Honestly I think this election will be won on very small margins along electoral college lines, like the last one.

 

[Dtknuckles]

Looks like Embedded is doing their season on Mitch McConnell. Should be interesting.

 

[Dtknuckles]

Looks like Embedded is doing their season on Mitch McConnell. Should be interesting.

Listened to the first episode last night, the duplicitous slimy bastard.

 

[RenegadeMonster]

The Trump Administrations war on Immigration has gone too far.

A volunteer for the humanitarian aid group No More Deaths faces 3 felony charges tied to his arrest last year.

What did he do? He left food and water in the dessert for immigrants crossing the boarder. So they wouldn't die of starvation or dehydration. And search and rescue of those immigrants in need of immediate care. This is what the humanitarian aid group does as well as many others.

The charges he faces could land him up to 20 years in prison. His trial is getting started this week.

The Trump administration is sending a very clear message. Humanitarian groups cannot aid illegal immigrants and their help of illegal immigrants will no longer be tolerated by border control agents who previously looked the other way.

 

[Enoch]

The Trump Administrations war on Immigration has gone too far.

A volunteer for the humanitarian aid group No More Deaths faces 3 felony charges tied to his arrest last year.

What did he do? He left food and water in the dessert for immigrants crossing the boarder. So they wouldn't die of starvation or dehydration. And search and rescue of those immigrants in need of immediate care. This is what the humanitarian aid group does as well as many others.

The charges he faces could land him up to 20 years in prison. His trial is getting started this week.

The Trump administration is sending a very clear message. Humanitarian groups cannot aid illegal immigrants and their help of illegal immigrants will no longer be tolerated by border control agents who previously looked the other way.

A risk that is worth it for Humanitarian groups, just keeping doing what is right

 

[ayayrawn]

Y'all ever just have waves of depression when u remember that human civilization will begin collapsing in the next 20-30 years as a result of climate change?

 

[Enoch]

Y'all ever just have waves of depression when u remember that human civilization will begin collapsing in the next 20-30 years as a result of climate change?

I do now

 

[Sonicpharmacist]

The Trump Administrations war on Immigration has gone too far.

A volunteer for the humanitarian aid group No More Deaths faces 3 felony charges tied to his arrest last year.

What did he do? He left food and water in the dessert for immigrants crossing the boarder. So they wouldn't die of starvation or dehydration. And search and rescue of those immigrants in need of immediate care. This is what the humanitarian aid group does as well as many others.

The charges he faces could land him up to 20 years in prison. His trial is getting started this week.

The Trump administration is sending a very clear message. Humanitarian groups cannot aid illegal immigrants and their help of illegal immigrants will no longer be tolerated by border control agents who previously looked the other way.

This right here is what pisses me off about conservative “Christians”. They’ll take away a woman’s right to decide what’s best for her body in the name of Christianity, but deny immigrants food and water. Once a child is out of the womb, they don’t give a flying fuck about anyone other than themselves. And even when they’re in the womb, they ONLY care because they don’t want to pay for anyone else’s abortion.

 

[Enoch]

This right here is what pisses me off about conservative “Christians”. They’ll take away a woman’s right to decide what’s best for her body in the name of Christianity, but deny immigrants food and water. Once a child is out of the womb, they don’t give a flying fuck about anyone other than themselves. And even when they’re in the womb, they ONLY care because they don’t want to pay for anyone else’s abortion.

you mean they aren't following Isaiah 55

Ho, everyone who thirsts,
come to the waters;
and you that have no money,
come, buy and eat!
Come, buy wine and milk
without money and without price.

Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread,
and your labor for that which does not satisfy?
Listen carefully to me, and eat what is good,
and delight yourselves in rich food.

Incline your ear, and come to me;
listen, so that you may live.
I will make with you an everlasting covenant,
my steadfast, sure love for David.

See, I made him a witness to the peoples,
a leader and commander for the peoples.

See, you shall call nations that you do not know,
and nations that do not know you shall run to you,
because of the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel,
for he has glorified you.

 

[Sonicpharmacist]

you mean they aren't following Isaiah 55

Ho, everyone who thirsts,
come to the waters;
and you that have no money,
come, buy and eat!
Come, buy wine and milk
without money and without price.

Why do you spend your money for that which is not bread,
and your labor for that which does not satisfy?
Listen carefully to me, and eat what is good,
and delight yourselves in rich food.

Incline your ear, and come to me;
listen, so that you may live.
I will make with you an everlasting covenant,
my steadfast, sure love for David.

See, I made him a witness to the peoples,
a leader and commander for the peoples.

See, you shall call nations that you do not know,
and nations that do not know you shall run to you,
because of the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel,
for he has glorified you.

I think that’s been redacted.