Twentytwo
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And I say this jokingly, 18 million over the cap. These guys are becoming the new Hawks.
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And I say this jokingly, 18 million over the cap. These guys are becoming the new Hawks.
Ginormousthumbs
Go on, geezer.
How often does the league drug test their players?
wokeupnew
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Lightning media director should be in the doghouse for allowing a shirtless drunk player to answer questions.... maybe wait until the next day?
Mather
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As someone who has watched about 7 trillion post game pressers over the span of my 22 year career in sports TV, this is one of my all time favs. He should get an award for keeping it interesting and not just spouting cliches and blind platitudes. Drunk post game pressers are always the best post game pressers.
Twentytwo
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I've said it before and I will say it again. In order to win the Stanley Cup regularly, you have to be very bad in order to become very good. Consistently mediocre teams who are never great or terrible, looking at you Nashville Predators can't win the Stanley Cup on any consistent basis. Most of the Stanley Cup winning teams usually have generational talent and also find some diamonds in the rough as well. Sorry Oilers, you guys are just bad, No matter how many first round picks you get.
Jonathan Y
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Yea we were pretty bad for about a decade when we first started in 92. I think we made the playoffs once maybe twice. Then after we won in 04 it was another dry run for about another decade
Turbo
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wokeupnew
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Yeah. When was the last time there was a consistent dynasty in the NHL? Penguins, maybe when they went back to back, Tampa can try to do it again next season but it's hard. Detroit in the 2000s were pretty good as well. You don't really see consistent successful teams which is a good thing for the league I guess. If any team happens to have a good draft and picks up some great players then they could go on a run and win. It's mostly random, except for Arizona.
Turbo
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It shouldn't really happen anymore with the cap. Widows are short and teams tend to sell the farm when they think they have a shot, which further handicaps their future. And it's also unusual that a team is 20 million above the cap and healthy in the playoffs.
Twentytwo
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All the teams lately maybe other than St Louis have had generational talent and were terrible before they got very good.
wokeupnew
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Completely forgot about the Blackhawks and Kings! Were very good for more than a year or two.
Turbo
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Boston is an outside case too, I think. They were never really bad for more than a year or two.
BjorgenFjorgen
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Bruins and Blues never really bottomed out to the extent of the other recent champs. Though even with Tampa, most of their best players these last two runs weren't high draft picks. Kucherov, Vasilevsky, and Point were all more important than Stamkos and most of them more than Hedman, I'd say.
Jonathan Y
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Ayye Kucherov played with a broken rib! Lol
All jokes aside I hope the NHL fixes the rule re: playoff salary and IL players. I thought they wouldve last year when we won it with Stamkos in the same situation for the regular season as Kucherov (granted his recovery wasnt as swift). This way we wont have the issue. I miss the Stanley Cup run in 2015 where all these guys were young and passed over and no one gave us a shot
Turbo
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This. I think the key is drafting well, which is why I think that collecting draft picks (and trading for young players with potential) and having a good development program is the best strategy for success.
Jonathan Y
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Side note: Johnson, Kucherov, Palat, Hedman, Stamkos, Killorn, and Vassy have been playing there together since 2012 or earlier. Thats almost a decade of building chemistry between your core group
BjorgenFjorgen
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Definitely. You can see it with teams like Edmonton and Buffalo, too. Hitting on your top picks is obviously huge, but if that's all the success you're having, you're not going to have much of a team. Management that can fill in around the key guys, and continue to supplement them with young, cheap players when others are due for a raise the team can't afford is just as important.
Also the Florida tax rate has certainly not hurt by keeping most of their big contracts down, haha.
Turbo
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I'm not sure how they fix that rule beyond either extending the cap to the playoffs or reducing the amount of cap relief a team gets when a player is on LTIR. Maybe teams have to submit playoff eligibility lists that factor in the cap somehow? It's tough because teams should be allowed to replace LITR players.
Hollywood
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In the salary cap era if you win back-to-back Cups or 3 in 5 years, you're pretty much considered a dynasty. The Pens, Kings, Hawks all come to mind, and now Lightning.