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Joe Mac said:
My point was about taking the full name of a different, prior, music form and whole scale attributing it to a later much different one.
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I didn't really understand that, since there is a clear influence, but it is common to refer to third wave ska and ska punk as just ska, because shorthand. Hence my confusion I guess.

I guess it is confusing if someone isn't familiar with the bands that are being discussed though. Even within ska punk, there is a lot of variation. Band with horns, without horns, with clear ska rhythms on every song, with only some on some songs. Confusing all around I guess, but that goes for most genres/sub-genres. I find myself just saying punk and meaning post-punk, hardcore punk, pop punk, ska punk, garage punk, post-hardcore etc. I guess some find it tedious to try to be precise with the imprecise genre labels, which I find understandable.
 
dhodo said:
I didn't really understand that, since there is a clear influence, but it is common to refer to third wave ska and ska punk as just ska, because shorthand. Hence my confusion I guess.

I guess it is confusing if someone isn't familiar with the bands that are being discussed though. Even within ska punk, there is a lot of variation. Band with horns, without horns, with clear ska rhythms on every song, with only some on some songs. Confusing all around I guess, but that goes for most genres/sub-genres. I find myself just saying punk and meaning post-punk, hardcore punk, pop punk, ska punk, garage punk, post-hardcore etc. I guess some find it tedious to try to be precise with the imprecise genre labels, which I find understandable.
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I suppose I dont agree and consider ska and ska-punk to be two utterly different things in almost every way, I don’t see huge common threads between pre-reggae Jamaican music and Less Than Jake and Bowling For Soup.

I’m kinda a bit bored of this back and forth now so I’m dropping out of the conversation.
 
Joe Mac said:
I suppose I dont agree and consider ska and ska-punk to be two utterly different things in almost every way, I don’t see huge common threads between pre-reggae Jamaican music and Less Than Jake and Bowling For Soup
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This is all just semantics, and you have a different POV being in the UK. Here "ska" and "punk-ska" were used almost interchangeably in the common discourse (whether that is technically correct or not).
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I always liked that they hired one of their buddies to dance around the stage like a ska hype man during their sets.
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I had a friend in HS that was at Warped Tour. She lost all her stuff (wallet, keys, etc) and was sitting out on a bench just sobbing. This guy comes over and sits down with her, listens to her story, and then basically gets her money and a way home. It was Dickey Barrett.
 
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gouis said:
The Pietasters are legit good.
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One time I saw the pietasters at a greek church. They were having trouble with the monitor, and the wasted singer kept berating the sound guy. When he came up to swap out a different cable, the singer kicked him right in the ass and he went flying. That seemed more in line with some of the hardcore shows I used to go to and kind of colored my opinion of their music for a while. That was in like 1998, so I should probably revisit it.
 
mgp said:
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One time I saw the pietasters at a greek church. They were having trouble with the monitor, and the wasted singer kept berating the sound guy. When he came up to swap out a different cable, the singer kicked him right in the ass and he went flying. That seemed more in line with some of the hardcore shows I used to go to and kind of colored my opinion of their music for a while. That was in like 1998, so I should probably revisit it.
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ROCK N ROLL BABY
 
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