No, don’t leave! It’s ok if you upset people, we’ve all done it before! We’re one big family in the end!
I’ve made comments that have upset people. I’ve been really cocky and have said sexually inappropriate things in the past on here but I’m now on good terms with everyone! You weren’t even being as bad as I once was with your comments, you’re really just debating!
it’s ok if there’s some disagreement! That’s normal! Also, I like how diverse we all are! That’s what makes this community unique and cool!
Like I think Dead C put me on ignore for a bit earlier on this year! But we are really good friends now and enjoy a bit of a cheeky chat nowadays!
Stay on here and continue being yourself! I really like you’re company (love the fact you have/had two different VMP accounts rolling at once
)!
I did, in fact, put you on ignore and I felt bad about it, even if I feel like I needed to, because I still cared about if it would hurt your feelings. It wasn't a performative gesture or to make a point, though. That was more so the equivalent of if your life is really stressful and you have a friend that keeps posting vacation photos. You might have to not see those for a while.
In this situation, I don't feel like we were only discussing music, though -- I also don't feel like we weren't discussing music, at all. I feel like someone said that something meant a lot to them and someone else told them not to discuss it, even though there were other people who it also clearly meant a lot to, because they didn't want to hear it. [That's white supremacy, bruh]. The pain and fear of other people bums them out. To me ... fuck, this is going to rhyme... but, that silence is violence and trying to silence other people and undermine them at every turn, is even worse. Just don't comment. Ignore it. With everything that's happening right now, that epitomizes the issue in such a concentrated and horrible way for me. That's benefiting from a group you can't even acknowledge the humanity of, while centering it around how everything effects yourself. Saying you're going to walk away does the same thing. Because you got challenged on something, the best thing to do is avoid it? That's not a bold move or sharp turn in another direction, it's just a continuation of the same approach. It pretends to say, "I'm leaving for you, because I acknowledge how what I'm doing affects you." But it doesn't respond to anything, it refuses to. So, what it really says is "I said that I'm going to ignore this and I don't want to hear it, so whatever, you drove me out." They were literally challenging and trying to throw obstacles in the way of everyone else who felt that it was important and needed to discuss that. Let people breathe, right now, if they need to. Your voice isn't being oppressed, because other people asked you to stop trying to oppress theirs.
If you being uncomfortable for a moment, because other people are discussing things that, for some of them, are issues that make them uncomfortable in almost every space in almost every moment of their life, think about some self reflection. If your solution is to bounce, because things got serious and all you wanted to do was talk about the beat, but not allow space for the pain that created it... I don't know.
I'll just say that discussing music and art is more than only focusing on pressing quality and dynamic range. That's just the medium.
I don't need to push this anymore, but for anyone who does want to discuss things on this level, there is a BLM thread that
@gouis started, right here. If anyone feels that's a conversation they can contribute to and/or gain something from and is interested in doing either, here you go.
It shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it does.
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